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Hello everyone, I am looking at purchasing a Kia Sorento, year range 2013-2017 and I have some questions, I figured a community of people who have a passion would be the best place! (I used to be in the car scene so I know about community)

The main reason we are looking at Sorento/Santa Fe is for towing and we like Hyundai, we bought a trailer and need the towing capacity (trailer is 3500 dry)

My question is I see the V6 Awd can take 5000 lbs, but see 3500 lbs for just the FWD V6. Is the rear suspension that different or even the transmission? I would love to just get a FWD as I see no need for AWD.

Thanks in advance for any advice and look forward to chatting.
 
Hello everyone, I am looking at purchasing a Kia Sorento, year range 2013-2017 and I have some questions, I figured a community of people who have a passion would be the best place! (I used to be in the car scene so I know about community)

The main reason we are looking at Sorento/Santa Fe is for towing and we like Hyundai, we bought a trailer and need the towing capacity (trailer is 3500 dry)

My question is I see the V6 Awd can take 5000 lbs, but see 3500 lbs for just the FWD V6. Is the rear suspension that different or even the transmission? I would love to just get a FWD as I see no need for AWD.

Thanks in advance for any advice and look forward to chatting.
The weight of a trailer over 3500lbs will unload the front wheels too much and traction will become an issue at times, thus the difference in ratings between AWD and FWD. Frankly, in my very personal opinion, I would not pick a Sorento to regularly tow 3500+ lbs but others are doing it, until they aren't. The stresses from towing aren't always readily apparent, showing up over time in the form of failed transmissions, differentials and even premature engine wear although that one is less likely. Uni-body vehicles used for towing those kind of weights also develop unintentional body torque, sometimes resulting in enough tweaking of the so-called structure to affect the ability to properly align the vehicle or in premature rattles and squeaks. Some say there is a weight distributing hitch that works fine, other companies say it is not recommend. Some have added air bags to the rear springs to help the sag the Sorento exhibits with even 350lbs.

The year range you are looking at is two entirely different vehicles with the change occurring with the 2016 model year. I don't know what the previous generation was capable of from a tow standpoint but suspect the 2016+ vehicle is probably a more capable vehicle. Also note that there is a huge discussion about tongue weight since the manual says even with the 5,000lb rating, maximum tongue weight is 350lbs - something not possible if you follow the rule of a MINIMUM of 10% of the loaded trailer weight on the tongue.
 
Hello everyone, I am looking at purchasing a Kia Sorento, year range 2013-2017 and I have some questions, I figured a community of people who have a passion would be the best place! (I used to be in the car scene so I know about community)

The main reason we are looking at Sorento/Santa Fe is for towing and we like Hyundai, we bought a trailer and need the towing capacity (trailer is 3500 dry)

My question is I see the V6 Awd can take 5000 lbs, but see 3500 lbs for just the FWD V6. Is the rear suspension that different or even the transmission? I would love to just get a FWD as I see no need for AWD.

Thanks in advance for any advice and look forward to chatting.
With regards to FWD or AWD on the Sorento, the “AWD” isn’t true AWD (unless there is some flavor of Sorento that is AWD all the time) It runs in FWD unless you press a button to lock the differential. Even then, it is only active until you reach 25 mph. It is mostly just to help you get unstuck from deep snow.
 
AWD rear engages anytime there is a partial wheel slip detected along with the very complex traction management system. Too much to post but it always their waiting and it assisting from a dead stop always even with the switch off.

The only thing is in normal driving it not pushing like an engage 4WD system or true AWD would. Load is on the front diff system only and needs to be robust enough for the full time task. Having said that I checked the vehicle and posted in another thread or maybe long go here. ETRAILER rates this 2019 as 500lbs tongue weight for the vehicle. See my post #224 !!
 
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Hello everyone, I am looking at purchasing a Kia Sorento, year range 2013-2017 and I have some questions, I figured a community of people who have a passion would be the best place! (I used to be in the car scene so I know about community)

The main reason we are looking at Sorento/Santa Fe is for towing and we like Hyundai, we bought a trailer and need the towing capacity (trailer is 3500 dry)

My question is I see the V6 Awd can take 5000 lbs, but see 3500 lbs for just the FWD V6. Is the rear suspension that different or even the transmission? I would love to just get a FWD as I see no need for AWD.

Thanks in advance for any advice and look forward to chatting.
I kinda doubt rear suspensions would be that different..., but who knows, axle rating for each model may certainly vary.

As an owner of both 2014 Santa Fe Sport fwd and 2017 Kia Sorento V6 AWD, I'd have to say that mpg differences between the 2 is pretty minimal. If you're not really towing, yeah, FWD will be lighter and cheaper for sure, but AWD V6 gets you extra 2000 lbs of towing capacity... so I think you definitely should go for that.

Plus, turbos run much hotter. I'm already pushing my Sorento's temperature limits even with additional ATF cooler.

So whether you get the Santa Fe or Sorento, since you are planning to tow, get the V6 AWD to give yourself extra margin.

Personally, I enjoy driving the Sorento better now comparing to the Santa Fe Sport. I thought they're supposed to be the same cars! Weird... The only thing lacking for the Sorento is that it lagges behind a bit in luxury features. My 2014 Santa Fe Sport has vented front seats, heated back seats, heated steering wheel and Xenon head lights..., but my 2017 near top of the line Sorento doesn't. However, at least it has Carplay... If you want Carplay and Android Auto, make sure you get the 2017 MY.

BTW, 2015 AWD V6 sorento doesn't have 5000 lb tow capacity. You need to get 2016 or higher... that's another thing Sorento lags behind the Santa Fes.
 
I didn't find that in Canada. A friend I recommended Hyundai Sante Fe XL w/ AWD & V6 didn't get the folding mirrors no the White Pearl paint in their 2019. Where as I got that other options in a 2015 Sorento SX I bought for my wife later. It also had vented cooled front seats as I have in the 2019. It depends. Apparently.

Back to towing. I bought mine knowing I will tow with it. I trailer a big SxS type ATV Yamaha Wolverine to be specify on a 6 x 12ft flat steel trailer. I am likely over 2000lbs to 2500lbs max for sure. My route is short approx 40km max and speed limit on the route from house to parking launch yard of the trail head is all 80km/hr posted and I and other drive around 90km/hr. Being an open trailer the wind drag is minimal and aero dynamics of the machine are pretty good sitting there higher for sure. Some long shallow grades at the most on route. I am 50% of the vehicles rating and would not have trouble with my wifes 3500lb rated 2015 either.

As before long distance hauling, wind resistance/drag, speed are the major factors in the vehicle tolerace keeping it together. Steep long hills, or mountain crossing may need other attention of a seasoned driver. You have to know about towing not just jump in the driver seat and tow a trailer unaware of variations you must address.
 
OH yeah, there are 2 cool features that my 2017 Sorento has that beats my 2014 Santa Fe... that's the folding mirror and the illuminating name plate at the door frames... Pretty useless actually. :p

Anyway, overall, Sorento feels more refined, probably because Hyundai started out first and ironed out all the bugs before they got the Kia sister model ready? I enjoy driving the Kia more for sure. Can't really say why exactly, just felt better.

BTW, my transfer case seal is being fixed by the dealer under warranty as we speak finally. I even got a loaner car from them too... Too bad it's now cold and wet and my trailer ain't 4 season rated... so I got no campgrounds to go... :(
 
You say hitch with sway control...is that a weight distribution hitch or is there another way to gain sway control? TIA!

Also...do you have an onboard compressor and control for the airbags, or do you have to do it manually? Thanks again-
Apologies for the REALLY later response. Not a WDH, but a regular hitch with a sway bar.
I have a $30 Ryobi battery operated air compressor that I keep in my tool bag.
I can unequivocally say that YES, you can and should use a WD if you pull any trailer heavy enough to require trailer brakes. My wife and I towed our GeoPro trailer from central California across the country to Virginia in 2018 and back. The trailer length (tongue of hitch to back of trailer) is 21feet. The trailer weight (empty) is 2965lbs; loaded it came in at approx 3400lbs. We purchased a WD system when we got the trailer. I have only towed the trailer once without the WD system and the result was a substantial increase in the 'bouncing' of the rear end of the Sorento with the trailer hooked up. Enough so, that it was quite uncomfortable towing it. We have also installed airbags on the back of the Sorento to increase the stability and weight limit while towing. I believe they cost approx. $150 for the install (in Ca dollars...haha). The airbags themselves cost just under $100 with all of the air lines and accessories to complete the install. I hope some or all of this information helps or assists in any decision you may be considering for towing with your Sorento.

Ron
Your trailer specs are identical to mine, same length and weight. I'm leaning towards giving WDH a try now. Lots of people using them with no issues. I also have the Airlift bags, they work okay in my opinion.
 
I have the 2016 Sorento LX AWD with the 3.3L V6 rated for 5000 lbs towing capacity. I was thinking of buying a travel trailer and thought naturally the tongue weight would be proportionnal (10%) but the owner manual says it is limited to 350 lbs, just like the FWD version. That seems very limiting.

For example, a 3000 lbs trailer I was considering has a hitch weight of 377 lbs. Also, that doesn't even take into account the actual tongue weight once the trailer is loaded with battery and propane in the front. What 5000 lbs, even 4000 lbs trailer has such a low tongue weight? It almost looks like a mistake in the owner manual.

Could I get away with a higher than 350 hitch with a weight distribution system? Anyone here with actual experience towing something with a higher than 350 lbs hitch weight on their Sorento AWD V6?
 
The tongue weight is written in your owner's manual and changes depending on the year and model. Mine is 500 lbs.
Hi, I know this is a very old post but I'm very curious about this because I just bought the exact same model (2016 Sorento LX+ AWD V6) and the owner manual says the tongue weight is limited to 350lbs. I see no mention of 500lbs.
 
500lbs on the tongue is going to overload the rear suspension regardless of what year you have. Some apparently have been able to find a weight distributing hitch to help, others have added air bags to the springs. Since I'm in the minority camp of the Sorento cannot safely tow 5000lbs, it doesn't much matter to me. But with changes to the suspension and/or WDH, tandem axle trailer (required in the US over 3,500lbs) with brakes on both axles, you might be okay for short distances. I would add transmission temp monitoring capability and a trans cooler as big as I could find and fit and then keep my fingers crossed every time I towed. Or, if I was serious about regularly towing 5,000lbs, I'd buy a proper tow vehicle.
 
All fair points, however I'm really only looking to buy a sub 3500lbs (dry) trailer with a hitch weight a little over 350 lbs. Nothing extreme here. I want to be within specs that is all and have heard conflicting reports on that max hitch weight.
 
Ok I'm calling it... printing error!!!

My paper manual (in french) clearly states 350lbs tongue weight even for the 5000lbs variant (see picture).

Yet I just pulled the electronic version off of the manufacturer's website and it indeed says 500lbs in THAT manual: https://www.kia.ca/en/owners/kia-ownership/owner-resources?year=2016&model=sorento
Also checked the french version and it's corrected there too.

So I think Kia printed early versions of this manual with this error and then corrected it in later versions, which is reflected in the online owner manual. That makes more sense to me now and what a relief, although I'm not planning on pushing it and will definitely get a WDH
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I'd be surprised if you didn't get excessive rear squatting with 4000lbs. Enough to make the headlights too high if night driving. Not an issue in the summer with long day time. Self leveling headlamps exist in UK and maybe other countries but I never seen them on any NA makes.

A lot of implementation and can do depends on the purpose. Short drive to a camp ground, all day drive to somewhere or across the country in multiweek vacation. The latter would be served by a better equipped vehicle IMO unless the tow weight it managed not to exceed the load spec more than tongue weight which maybe wrong.
 
It is for a very long, cross-country, multi-week trip and sometimes hundreds of km during a day so definitely not short. And at this point a new vehicule is out of the question. I could always look into much lighter 2000ish lbs trailers because there's only 2 of us but those all have single axles and everything I read lead me to beleive a dual axel is much better for security. Maybe an anti-sway could offset that somewhat. But then I understand the concerns about excessive weight too. It's a balancing act, literally.

In any event, I'm not considering trailers with a dry weight over 3000 lbs so I'm not going to come close to the max manufacturer specs. I'm also getting a WDH for anything heavier than 2000 lbs. And I'm under warranty for the next 3 years which helps aleviate any concern about mechanical trouble. I might look into modifications that have been suggested in this thread earlier as well like a bigger transmission cooler with temp monitoring.
 
It is for a very long, cross-country, multi-week trip and sometimes hundreds of km during a day so definitely not short. And at this point a new vehicule is out of the question. I could always look into much lighter 2000ish lbs trailers because there's only 2 of us but those all have single axles and everything I read lead me to beleive a dual axel is much better for security. Maybe an anti-sway could offset that somewhat. But then I understand the concerns about excessive weight too. It's a balancing act, literally.

In any event, I'm not considering trailers with a dry weight over 3000 lbs so I'm not going to come close to the max manufacturer specs. I'm also getting a WDH for anything heavier than 2000 lbs. And I'm under warranty for the next 3 years which helps aleviate any concern about mechanical trouble. I might look into modifications that have been suggested in this thread earlier as well like a bigger transmission cooler with temp monitoring.
You're probably ok, driving habits and trottle management will be key. Thats with any vehicle and if you've never towed they're is a learn curve!!! Braking becomes criticle if traversing very hilly or mountainous routes. That trailer will have to have trailer brakes built in and you add a controller to the Sorento setup for the optimum level. I have towed for 2/3 rds my life and nothing worst than major brake fad. You can't stop only slow down when it happens. Cooling the pads takes time. Hence be sure you brake pads are over 75% and free, not sticking. There are treads on stuff started by @Billi , fyi.
You should hitch up to a candidate and see how much it squats at the trail site at least before buying and/or tow around for a few miles as a test.

Vehicle prep is extremely important to avert a breakdown. Alway use full synthetic oil which in mine is spec'd out as 5W30, Rotella SUV, Pennzoil, Castrol are all optimum candidates. Never use additives, the oil company engineers go to great lengths to engineer the fluid to work !!! If you were looking at 5000lbs then it could be a major issue. Note Wind drag is the biggest factor in trailering once you're moving.
 
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Thanks for those recommandations Tripplec I will add them to the todo list. Synthetic oil is a good call and for sure the trailer will have brakes, standard or if not added at a later time. I will have both the car and trailer serviced before we leave. Security is my #1 concern I'm not compromising on that. I was planning on taking an RV/Trailer driving course as well before the trip and will definitely do short easy towing trips before we hit the road for the big one to build my confidence and knowledge of driving mechanics.
 
You don't have to spend much money to prep. Fresh oil change as mentioned and having brake pad checked and if worn beyond 50% you might want to replace the pads (you can get good pad well under $50/axle) from a Canadian company which I have used for many vehicles and years, including premium rotors if needed. I'll look them up and edit this. Its all common sense stuff, good wipers cleaning for wet days etc. If ok, leave alone so don't tamper with other items working.

I had them in my favourites. LOL Carbon Ceramic Premium pads are what I have used from them. You can talk to them as well. Shipping is fast and included!!!

 
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