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Xenon bulbs for Ceed

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#1 ·
I just wanted to ask the Ceed owners who have installed a xenon kit which bulb they've used? I know it's a H7 bulb for low beam but I wanted to know whether you have chosen a D2S or D2R bulb?
I want to go for a 4300K (everything else is out of the question) xenon kit but am not sure which bulbs to take.
D2S are ment for cars with projector headlights and D2R for reflector HLs. Given the fact that our Ceeds all (unfortunately) have reflector HLs it would seem reasonable to go for the D2R bulbs but:
D2S are supposedly giving more light output while producing a larger amount of glare in an reflector headlight. Is this correct? Beacuse I don't want to blind every driver that passes me. Are the D2R therefore a better option for our Ceeds?Do they actually produce less glare and make the light more focused?

Thanks in advance for your answers and suggestions....

cheers ;)
 
#2 ·
what is your location?
you could fill out the info in your profile now :)

You see, ALL DxS or DxR are "bulbs" designed to fit ONLY specific headlight assembly unit.
I mean, they have different bases comparing to halogens. There is NO WAY to fit them.

So, here is what you can do. Get H7 HID conversion kit and install it. As long as you aim the reflector correctly you MIGHT be all right.
It is unknown how the extra light will behave. You may get much more glare. Or you may not...

As far as I know none of the aftermarket conversion kits is equipped with shielded hids.
So far I had two - 9006 and H11B. None is shielded.
I use H11B (simply H11) in Rondo (Carens) but this is equipped with projectors, so I do not glare more than before.
On 2002 Intrepid I had more glare so I had to lower the lights.
 
#3 ·
I used a PILOT brand 35W 4300K H7 kit on mine. I purchased it on e-bay for $100 shipped and have been trouble free since I installed them 3 months ago. I am not absolutely positive but as far as blinding oncoming drivers I think wattage plays a major role in that department. So far nobody has flashed their high beams at me at night so I think it's safe to assume that I'm not blinding anyone. As long as you stick to 35W and not 55W then you should be fine.
 
#5 ·
there is no normal HID with wattage more than 35W. If there is anything more - its either a scam or something what you are not supposed to buy.
 
#6 ·
Didn't quite understand what you were saying, but, you have:
- 35w H7 HID
- 55w H7 HID
- 35w H7r HID
- 55w H7r HID

From these four, I wouldn't recommend using the 55w H7. All other 3 are ok.
Any of these 4 kits will be illegal to use, because the Ceed has no "optics sprinkler" or auto-leveling optics. Here in Portugal you can buy good quality HID from 65€
 
#8 · (Edited)
So, did you really have a shield on the HID bulb? It could be I just did not find that one with shield, or the seller simply lies. When I asked for shielded 9006 I got not shielded, while he claimed it was right.
And you are right - none, and nowhere ?HID conversion kits are street legal.
I have never found 55W although heard about them. Stock, OEM HIDs are only 35 W.

could you give me a link? I want to see them

As I mentioned somewhere on this forum before, standard (halogen) headlights are designed somewhat different than Xenon (fabric) headlights. It's because of focal point of a halogen bulb which is (by design) different than focal point of HID bulb.
So fitting any aftermarket HID into halogen lamp would introduce some level of glare, it's just the matter how much of it. And it's not accidentally forbidden to use.

The fact that people don't flash on you does not mean they are not bothered with your glare - most of the time they see you don't have high (long) beams turned on (so they don't flash on you) but they might still be blinded and curse on you while they pass by..
Hi Nikola again.
No, I am not starting a battle here :)
Just wanted to say that the final effect is "housing dependent". I mean, that not each headlight assembly will produce the same glare, or light focus.
Just based on my three different experiments - 9006 in 2002 Intrepid (reflector), got almost the same pattern, but was not good (much more glare). Next 9006 in projector, fog lights - great pattern, no glare at all.
H11 (or H11B ) in projector, slightly different pattern (less focus on the center comparing with halogen, but here I dealt with slightly different bulb design). But glare at the same level.

Glare can be direct and indirect.
Direct is coming directly from the headlight - wrong bulb position, bad light pattern.
Indirect from reflection from road. For this one there is nothing what can be done, except to lower performance of HID since all HID equipped cars do that.
(did some readings since our last conversation)

but no matter how well the light pattern is copied, it is still illegal
 
#7 ·
As I mentioned somewhere on this forum before, standard (halogen) headlights are designed somewhat different than Xenon (fabric) headlights. It's because of focal point of a halogen bulb which is (by design) different than focal point of HID bulb.
So fitting any aftermarket HID into halogen lamp would introduce some level of glare, it's just the matter how much of it. And it's not accidentally forbidden to use.

The fact that people don't flash on you does not mean they are not bothered with your glare - most of the time they see you don't have high (long) beams turned on (so they don't flash on you) but they might still be blinded and curse on you while they pass by..
 
#9 ·
Thanks guys for your posts....

I'm not planing on putting either the D2S or D2R bulb directly into the headlight because I know that you have to actually buy the whole kit in order for the bulb to function properly. As most of you guys seem to have H7 D2S bulbs installed I was wondering whether the light ouput on your cars (and beem pattern) are relatively OK or is the light just spread in all directions? That is why I consider buying D2R because its supposed to make the xenon light in a reflector headlight more focused on where you actually need it...
Any comments on that ?
 
#10 ·
mirkos, PLP is trying to explain you that there are no H7 D2S or H7 D2R bulbs for reflector headlights on the market. there are only H7 etc illegal xenon bulbs.

PLP - there are indeed 55W xenon kits, they designed to be fitted in those cars which have computers telling there are malfunctions e.g. lamp not working (Mersedes, BMW,Opel etc) so if you put 35w xenon instead of halogen 55w simple bulb then you will have alarm on onto your cars comp.
 
#11 · (Edited)
PLP - there are indeed 55W xenon kits, they designed to be fitted in those cars which have computers telling there are malfunctions e.g. lamp not working (Mersedes, BMW,Opel etc) so if you put 35w xenon instead of halogen 55w simple bulb then you will have alarm on onto your cars comp.
Oh I see
I confirm, I saw some on eBay and other sites 55W HID kits. I wonder if the ballast has a resistor that "burns" current or the HID lamp takes more power. It is the same thing when you put LED in turn signals bulb.
IMO the first option is more real.

Generally speaking, I prefer a driver (car) with correctly adjusted aftermarket HID than a car with burned one of the bulbs or positioned too high (or too low).