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The Sportage, at least the hybrid, has coolant piping that circulates through the exhaust to bring it up to temp much quicker. I don't run mine for more than a few minutes before getting in it and going.
I saw those hoses running alongside the exhaust pipes and wondered how long until something pierces that rubber hose causing a major problem.
 
I just don't understand how the car is rated for 38mpg on the highway... when driving 60-65mph on the highway, the instant MGP bar rarely even hits 30mpg... (below 25 in this case).

Also attached my fuelly log calculated every fuelup since driving off the lot with the car. Never once getting close to the advertised 38 combined MPG.
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Our Hybrid EX is averaging 34.4 overall after 7 fill-ups.
 
There is a noticeable cliff in terms of the MPG once air temps drop below ~34 degrees. I was originally pretty disappointed with the gas mileage of my hybrid ex when temps first dipped this fall. It was like the cold shocked the system and I was getting like ~27mpg the first few cold days. However, even with temps in the teens here in Chicago, I'm usually able to do better than 30mpg on my interstate commute to work. If the temps pop up above that ~34 degree mark, I can live in the 34-38 range even when driving 90% interstate. With city driving in that same temp range, I can break 40 no problem. I definitely had to change my driving style and manage how much/when I run the heat in the winter time. I tend to let my seat warmer do most of the heavy lifting if I'm alone and I certainly don't waste any gas by letting the car sit running before I leave in the morning. For context, I'm at ~19k miles and there was definitely a break in/driving adjustment period after which the MPG improved. I'm looking forward to summer because this car is a beast in the heat. I seem to get the best gas mileage on the warmest days.
 
New member from Maine here--first time hybrid owner/driver. My husband and I bought a 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid EX AWD in mid-December. First trip of 35 miles down to the coast was on a mild winter day (45 - 50 degrees) on an easy rural road with minimal traffic and stops. The Sportage Hybrid got 43 MPG. Yesterday was much colder - 22 degrees - and on a short route to the store it got 34.5 MPG. My husband has had me leave it on Eco mode.

With any car I drive, I am gentle on the gas pedal and anticipate starts/stops in traffic flow. The hybrid seems to work well with my driving style so far. Our driveway has had a lumpy ice and snow base on it for several days and the Sportage handled it easily.
 
The Tucson PHEV got 31mpg at 70mph in HEV mode according to Daily Motor, so I feel good in going for the Sportage PHEV, but the lack of a tax credit pushes me back to the hybrid. I'm glad to see lots of people getting good mileage with the hybrid.
 
I really don't think this new law is going to stay.
With Hyundai and Kia having a major presence in GA,AL and building another plant in Savannah, Kemp is probably going to try his hardest to revise the law. (Please don't say anything politically biased)
 
I really don't think this new law is going to stay.
With Hyundai and Kia having a major presence in GA,AL and building another plant in Savannah, Kemp is probably going to try his hardest to revise the law. (Please don't say anything politically biased)
Hyundai's Alabama plant has just recently added the Santa Fe Hybrid to the ICE assembly plant and the new Genesis GV70 Electrified. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sportage Hybrid was added to KIA's ICE assembly plant in Georgia soon.
 
Hyundai's Alabama plant has just recently added the Santa Fe Hybrid to the ICE assembly plant and the new Genesis GV70 Electrified. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sportage Hybrid was added to KIA's ICE assembly plant in Georgia soon.
Kia Georgia is modifying their lines to manufacture EV6 and EV9 starting next year I believe.
 
The Biden Administration raised the price ceiling for EV's to be eligible for the tax credit to $80K. Personally, I think if a person can afford to purchase an $80K vehicle (EV or ICE) they do not need a tax credit. It will remain to be seen if Elon raises the price of the Model Y (which was recently reduced by $13K to get under the ceiling) again, since the price ceiling was raised.

IMHO that decision is only going to increase the price of EV's more and push more consumers out of the market. It's similar to why college tuition is so high, the increase in the availability/amount of student loans.
 
The Biden Administration raised the price ceiling for EV's to be eligible for the tax credit to $80K. Personally, I think if a person can afford to purchase an $80K vehicle (EV or ICE) they do not need a tax credit. It will remain to be seen if Elon raises the price of the Model Y (which was recently reduced by $13K to get under the ceiling) again, since the price ceiling was raised.

IMHO that decision is only going to increase the price of EV's more and push more consumers out of the market. It's similar to why college tuition is so high, the increase in the availability/amount of student loans.
To be clear, it looks like they just clarified which vehicles apply for the $80k. The $80k limit was always there, but did they get rid of the $55k limit entirely?
 
To be clear, it looks like they just clarified which vehicles apply for the $80k. The $80k limit was always there, but did they get rid of the $55k limit entirely?
Yes. Still not necessary for buyers of those vehicles to receive a tax rebate - they have plenty of money.
 
The most recent figure for my 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid after 320 miles of driving was 30 mpg. Not exactly what I was expecting from a hybrid vehicle. Our Camry Hybrid never hit below 38 mpg winter/summer.
 
The most recent figure for my 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid after 320 miles of driving was 30 mpg. Not exactly what I was expecting from a hybrid vehicle. Our Camry Hybrid never hit below 38 mpg winter/summer.
30 MPG? Sheesh, I guess I didn't miss out on much from buying the ICE
 
The most recent figure for my 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid after 320 miles of driving was 30 mpg. Not exactly what I was expecting from a hybrid vehicle. Our Camry Hybrid never hit below 38 mpg winter/summer.
A Camry is significantly smaller and as such could make a poor comparison. I will add that 320 miles is not a lot of data, so it'll probably be better, but judging by the Tucson owners this powertrain seems to dislike early driving periods and the cold weather. What style of driving do you do?
 
A Camry is significantly smaller and as such could make a poor comparison. I will add that 320 miles is not a lot of data, so it'll probably be better, but judging by the Tucson owners this powertrain seems to dislike early driving periods and the cold weather. What style of driving do you do?
Our Sportage has 2500 miles on it. I am just saying the most recent fill-up was disappointing. We live in Denver and mostly do city trips of short distances, where the hybrid should shine. I think the EPA ratings on the Sportage are a bit exaggerated. We are averaging 33.8 over 10 fill-ups.

The reason I mentioned our Camry is because it always got what the EPA figures indicated it would. Kia would not sell half as many hybrids if the EPA numbers were more in line with what consumers are really getting 32-35 mpg. :)
 
The most recent figure for my 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid after 320 miles of driving was 30 mpg. Not exactly what I was expecting from a hybrid vehicle. Our Camry Hybrid never hit below 38 mpg winter/summer.
Oh wow, my 23 Sportage SX-Prestige is set to arrive in 7 days and I was STRONGLY considering holding out for the Hybrid. But these numbers are honestly disappointing as I "expected" to at least hear 33-35 even though they're advertising 38. Hopefully your gas mileage increases significantly as you reach the Break in period (assuming you have not already).
 
Our Sportage has 2500 miles on it. I am just saying the most recent fill-up was disappointing. We live in Denver and mostly do city trips of short distances, where the hybrid should shine. I think the EPA ratings on the Sportage are a bit exaggerated. We are averaging 33.8 over 10 fill-ups.

The reason I mentioned our Camry is because it always got what the EPA figures indicated it would. Kia would not sell half as many hybrids if the EPA numbers were more in line with what consumers are really getting 32-35 mpg. :)
My point is that it is a lot easier to pull a Camry along than a Sportage, so the comparison isn't really fair. An SUV exacerbates any differences from the EPA's testing because it's so much larger (think weight and cross-sectional area both). From results I've seen, the electric motor could stand to be bigger, though, to help. Regardless, with recent ICE vehicles, I have been noticing a 20% hit in winter, which puts your numbers in line with EPA numbers. This is also consistent with my past ICE vehicles. In short, you are going to have a hard time getting EPA numbers for any SUV in winter (and in summer in some situations), hybrid or otherwise. Since the engine has to run for heat in winter, you might want to try prioritizing heated seats and steering wheel if you are not already.
 
Oh wow, my 23 Sportage SX-Prestige is set to arrive in 7 days and I was STRONGLY considering holding out for the Hybrid. But these numbers are honestly disappointing as I "expected" to at least hear 33-35 even though they're advertising 38. Hopefully your gas mileage increases significantly as you reach the Break in period (assuming you have not already).
You would still easily make up the difference in vehicle cost (unless you are paying well over MSRP) at the numbers they are listing, mind you, if we are talking city driving.
 
The most recent figure for my 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid after 320 miles of driving was 30 mpg. Not exactly what I was expecting from a hybrid vehicle. Our Camry Hybrid never hit below 38 mpg winter/summer.
My Hybrid EX is just two weeks old with just 330 miles and at 31.7 overall. Last 100 miles has been 34.3. Hoping after break-in period it will get better.
That is better than my 11 year old Ford Fusion hybrid that never got close to EPA numbers (41 city/36 hwy/39 combined) at 31.5 lifetime. It gets better on the highway than in town due to all of the starting and stopping, speed bumps, etc. It rarely runs on battery with the older tech.
 
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