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Cut and pasted some of the info below, basically the internal seals of the ABS/Traction Control unit may leak brake fluid onto the electrical internals of the module. The recall inspects for leaking fluid from the ABS module and replaces if necessary. On my SX the module is mounted on the left side of the firewall in the engine compartment. It's way back there under the horn behind the engine, not easy to see. (it has mutiple brake lines coming out the top). I inspected mine and it was dry.



NHTSA Vehicle Safety Recalls

  • Recall Number

    20V519000

    Recall Date

    08/27/2020

    Component

    SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK/TRACTION CONTROL/ELECTRONIC LIMITED SLIP:CONTROL UNIT/MODULE

    Summary

    Kia Motors America (Kia) is recalling certain 2013-2015 Optima and 2014-2015 Sorento vehicles. Brake fluid may leak inside the Hydraulic Electronic Control Unit (HECU), possibly resulting in an electrical short.

    Consequence

    If the HECU short circuits, there is an increased risk of an engine compartment fire.

    What Owners Should Do

    Kia will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the HECU for leaking brake fluid and replace the HECU if necessary, free of charge. Owners are advised to park outside and away from other vehicles and structures until the recall repair is completed. The recall is expected to begin October 15, 2020. Owners may contact Kia customer service at 1-800-333-4542. Kia's number for this recall is SC197.
 

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So I scheduled an appt. with my local dealer for the recall. After sitting in the waiting area about 20 minutes, the service advisor comes to me and says they don't have the equipment yet to perform the recall. He also told me the left rear wheel speed sensor is bad and to fix it would be $340 plus tax. The bad wheel speed sensor could be the reason the light is on, and not related to the recall at all. After searching around the internet for a bit, it seems to be a common problem on Kia's. Has anyone on here ever replaced a wheel speed sensor, specifically the left rear wheel? I'm a decent shade tree mechanic and may tackle this myself, but if it's too involved maybe just let the dealer do it. Also, some are of the opinion that sometimes you can simply clean the sensor and the light goes off.
 

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Never did the job, looks like part is about $40.00 USD, See attached pic, book says to remove wheel and brake caliper. The sensor has what looks like a 12 inch pigtail in the parts book, to me it looks like routing the wire harness would be harder than the single bolt to pull the sensor. The cable harness maybe why they say remove the caliper to get more room, it looks the sensor could come off with wheel still there with the right tools. Again I Never performed replacement, so your just getting an internet guess for your question. Testing requires spinning wheel and an oscilloscope, or driving with GDS tool, probably not things you have laying around.
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Thanks for the reply. The pic you sent doesn’t look like my left rear wheel and components. I did pull the left rear wheel after work today to have a look and see what’s what. I couldn’t figure out how to get the connector off the sensor. I didn’t see anything to push, pull or squeeze to get the connector off. Didn’t want to break anything so I put the wheel back on.
 

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The sensor comes with a 'pigtail' of wire attached, the usual procedure is to remove the sensor with the pigtail and unplug the pigtail connector from the loom, the join is usually/(hopefully) out of the way of moisture snags etc
 

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Has anyone actually received the recall letter yet. If so, is the process just an inspection for external leaks or does it involve disassembly. Looked at mine with a remote camera and could not find any fluid on exterior of HECU. Vehicle has only 35,000 miles, 2014 SXL AWD
 

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Has anyone actually received the recall letter yet. If so, is the process just an inspection for external leaks or does it involve disassembly. Looked at mine with a remote camera and could not find any fluid on exterior of HECU. Vehicle has only 35,000 miles, 2014 SXL AWD
Yep got the letters last week for both my sorento and optima. IMO it’s a waste of time. All they are going to do is inspect the unit. If it’s leaking they will replace. What’s to say it won’t leak the next day, week, month etc. if the part is defective it should be replaced regardless if it’s leaking or not at the time of inspection. I checked both of mine and didn’t see any leaking so I’m not wasting my time at the dealership.


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Yep got the letters last week for both my sorento and optima. IMO it’s a waste of time. All they are going to do is inspect the unit. If it’s leaking they will replace. What’s to say it won’t leak the next day, week, month etc. if the part is defective it should be replaced regardless if it’s leaking or not at the time of inspection. I checked both of mine and didn’t see any leaking so I’m not wasting my time at the dealership.


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Exactly this. I took mine in, and they came back in 15 minutes and said "Nope, your good" as my ABS, TPMS, and TCS lights are all on.

As you stated, what's stopping the unit from leaking after the inspection? Will it magicly not leak? Obviously they have a brake issue, but they dont want to address it directly.
 

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Yep got the letters last week for both my sorento and optima. IMO it’s a waste of time. All they are going to do is inspect the unit. If it’s leaking they will replace. What’s to say it won’t leak the next day, week, month etc. if the part is defective it should be replaced regardless if it’s leaking or not at the time of inspection. I checked both of mine and didn’t see any leaking so I’m not wasting my time at the dealership.


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I agree as its a matter of time and some maybe much lower mileage as well as extra well looked after. The failure will become deferred to a much later date. Then What??
 

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I agree as its a matter of time and some maybe much lower mileage as well as extra well looked after. The failure will become deferred to a much later date. Then What??
I just gave Kia Consumer a ring, and asked them "What about the mechanic looking at it is going to prevent it from failing after the inspection?" She was really wonderful, and understood my confusion. I asked her "If I go stare at my tires, will that prevent them from failing at a later date" to which she laughed and said she honestly didnt have an answer and directed me to ask that question to the person performing the "inspection".

tl:dr if youy stare at something, it magically fixes itself and wont break, ever. Never ever.
 

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So where does this leave us? Do we demand new units be installed citing safety/fire risk? It’s really a joke.


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I wouldn't be surprised if this recall gets escalated to outright replacement due to a class action lawsuit.

I can check my own module for exterior leaks, but if there is some internal issue that could either affect my brakes or burn down my car, then I just hope it happens while I'm not in the car or while I'm driving.
 

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Had my inspection today, no issues found. But if the thing is leak internally, or if it starts leaking a year or week from now ???
On the plus side, I got a free wash.
 

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Where exactly is this leak suppose to be. What aspect is failing?

I'll want to look myself before taking it in. I just got a letter.
 

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Again 'crickets' from Hyundai/Kia, no detailed info. Nothing for owners to check, just the usual trust the dealer to inspect. and then never worry about it again. Rumor mill says defective seals inside the HECU. Since this thing can apply and release brakes in each corner of the vehicle, basically taking control of the brake pedal during a spin, there must be a few actuators and valves inside it. Along with what sounds like, some non-insulated from leaks electronics. Not sure how they can inspect HECU internals, hope they are not just checking the outside for seapage from inside. Heck we can do that..
 

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Not sure how they can inspect HECU internals, hope they are not just checking the outside for seepage from inside. .. Heck we can do that..
INdeed. I have just received the recall....I HATE to let others invade my property....so...I'll give a look....
More later....
 

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I just did my pre winter oil change given the very mild warm temps we have this week. The unit is well hidden not even partially visible. Clearly something that could never be seen in normal servicing inspections.
 

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Is this recall for all models of Sorentos in the 2014-2015 years? I have not received a notice yet on my 2014 SXL AWD and even if I put my VIN into the NHTSA database it does not show an outstanding recall for the brake system. I've also done a few other VIN searches in other databases and no recalls come up for my particular car.
 
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