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So I just bought a 2004 Kia Rio RS here in Toronto Canada. I normally drive a Qx56 Infiniti suv, but decided it was killing me in gas when driving 80km daily to work and back, so I bought the Kia after a coworker telling me his was amazing on gas. Leave the suv at home with the wife.

I've been reading that I should replace the timing belt every 102km, but how can I tell if the previous owner did it? I don't want to just do it, especially if it was already done and can last until 204km...will the dealer be able to tell? I was reading the maint schedule sticky, and figure I should just take it to a dealership for a #3 maintenance schedule? This would suck cause I just had the oil changed when I picked it up....

Also, anyone have anything I should look out for with this car? It's the basic model, with pretty much nothing...no pw, pl. Just air con and a cd, automatic transmission. I was so happy when I filled up the gas and it cost me less than the normal $130..lol (gas is $1.50/litre for premium, 1.30 reg).
 

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Greetings,

If the previous owner had the TB service done at a dealership, there may be a record of it. Was there any documentation included w/ the vehicle at sale?

Contacting the Kia dealer local to your area would be recommended, a VIN check by the Service Mgr. on service history should tell if the service was done by a Kia dealer.. And if not, it would be an opportunity to get pricing, etc..

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If this was a private owner sale (if it was me) I would contact the previous owner and ask..

Depending on the price you paid, that may reflect if the TB service was not done - there are folks that sell at the major maintenance interval, vs. spend the $$$ to have the major maintenance steps done on the vehicle.


If the answer is No on the TB, or unsure of the status of the Timing Belt, highly recommend getting the TB service done ASAP, to prevent disappointment and heartbreak if the TB breaks.. Engines are expensive.

Congrats on your purchase - wish I had those MPG's here.. :D

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You could look for any evidence that the external belts/hoses at the timing-belt end of the engine might have been changed when the TB was done. Apart from that, you will have to rely on any documentation. Partial dismantling and inspection will not help, and be nearly as expensive as doing the job. I changed a TB at 100,000 km (12 years) and the old one looked almost new.

I remember thinking carefully before changing our TB ($400); a long interstate trip was planned, and that settled the matter, otherwise I might have let it go. I sold the car 2 years later and was only able to do the deal because I had kept records of TB etc.

I believe KIA/Hyundai is moving away from TBs. That will cut the posts on this Forum considerably!
 

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thanks for the info guys...it was purchsed thru a used car dealership, but not a Kia dealership. no documentation incl, in fact, there wasn't even the owner's manual included...stupid me didn't even check for that until i was home with car. oh well.....any links on this forum to download?

i'll be making an appt at the dealer tomorrow...i just dont want to be ripped off by a Kia dealership telling me it has to be done when it was replaced..
 

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thanks for the info guys... ...any links on this forum to download?
Best place to search is Google. Relevant threads on this forum will show up near the top. A quick look suggests that the dealer might be able to a visual inspection easily enough.
 

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Take it to a Certified independent mechanic and save yourself some bucks. Taking it to a dealer is a ripoff.
 

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And as GottaCruise already posted, the Kiatechinfo.com website has the owners manual and service info (free in USA) so you can print out a complete manual if you like.
If you pull the top timing cover(4 6mm bolts if I recall correctly) you can inspect enough of the belt to see its condition, and see down towards the waterpump. If it was serviced properly, the waterpump was replaced with the belt (though perhaps it was skipped...) and will appear newer than the rest of the surfaces within the timing arrangement. Pay close attention to the cogs and inner belt surface, not so much the outer surface. Anyone who replaces the belt without also doing the waterpump is CRAZY (or has already replaced the pump previously).
 

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Crazy? Not really! Change waterpump every other timing belt change for 49 states where one should change the TB every 60,000 miles, CA. sayes change belt every 100,000 miles then yes I'd change the waterpump.
 

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Kevster and jcwit are both correct get both done if they have not been done it just make sense while the mechanic has it apart if you plan on keeping the car to save labor cost if the water pump goes . I had my water pump done at 80 K while the belt was changed. I am due again next tb change.
 

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So I went to a dealership but they said they would only be able to tell if work was done at their place. Head Kia said only if thru warranty , which it wasn't. So I'm going to a private mechanic and have it done. Thanks for the help...getting 8.76 per liter, or 11.46 liters per 100km. It's only about 20.6 miles per gal. I should be getting better even with mostly city drivin right?
 

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Looking at the Forum, the RIO is not known for its economy, but 20.6 MPG (US) is a poor result from a 1.6 litre car. I used to get 30 MPG (US) from my Mazda2 1.5, driven fairly hard around town. I can get 20 MPG from my 2.5 litre Nissan around town, driving gently.

Time for a tune-up?
 
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