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Rotating my tires today noticed I need new tires in the rear. I've been told it looks like my car had too much negative camber. I always dismissed it because I thought the SX was "set up" for performance handling over the LX and EX Seeing as I dont have one to compare them and needing new tires after 27k I question this now. I WILL say I havent rotated the tire as much as I prob should have but I think this would be the third time rotating them since I bought it new. I STILL feel cords showing on the inside already is a bit premature. Looking over the warranty alignment is only 12mo. The tires have a 60k warranty but have disclaimers regarding improper wear due to mechanical reasons. I take this as ahhh there not covered because too much neg camber hence my dilema and question. Dealer claims no pattern with SX owners.
 

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A pattern has zero to do with your vehicle.

Pay to check the alignment............er KGIS specs.
 

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I wish there was a way to block JUST YOU! Anyone ELSE have something. The ALIGNMENT tech said HIGHLY IMPROBABLE that BOTH rear wheels are out of alignment. I was mearly asking in the hopes a KIA tech or fellow NON JERK kia owner would post. PLEASE I ASK YOU NEVER REPLY TO ME AGAIN. And yes it will be checked regardless.

Edit...thankfully there is a ignore feature I encourage everyone to ignore njerald he provides nothing good to this forum PERIOD!!
 

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Rear camber spec is -.5° to -1.5°. If aligned within spec, with proper tire rotations(front straight back, cross rear to front) and correct tire psi, inside wear should be minimal if not non-existent. -1.0° to -1.5° is a little much IMO. If it was mine, I'd have it adjusted to the lower end of spec(-.5°), while adjusting toe closer to zero or slightly toed in.

If you plan on keeping the vehicle for a while, it would best to get the alignment done. Once its done it should not need done again for a long while unless damage occurs or worn suspension/steering parts are replaced.
 

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Might be toe, not camber causing it - either way the alignment needs to be checked.

The moral of the story is pay attention to tire wear & catch it early.
 

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I wish there was a way to block JUST YOU! Anyone ELSE have something. The ALIGNMENT tech said HIGHLY IMPROBABLE that BOTH rear wheels are out of alignment. I was mearly asking in the hopes a KIA tech or fellow NON JERK kia owner would post. PLEASE I ASK YOU NEVER REPLY TO ME AGAIN. And yes it will be checked regardless.

Edit...thankfully there is a ignore feature I encourage everyone to ignore njerald he provides nothing good to this forum PERIOD!!
"when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" - Sherlock Holmes, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

Those asking for advice, aren't in a position to turn anyone away. if your tires are toast, primarily in the manner that suggests the rear camber is incorrect, i suggest to verify that premise is untrue, before eliminating it.

there have been issues with camber, a simple search of the subforum can find them.

if you don't agree (or even if you do, yet lack an explanation) take it to another specialist and get his opinion.

PS: i have 35k miles on my SX and have only rotated 3 times (every 10k, front to back same direction) and i have none of the wear you are describing. i have wear, but it favors the side striking the ground when rolling forward. I am unsure as to weather or not i will reverse the direction on the next rotation.
 

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I would agree an alignment check would be in your best interest. My 2012 SX shows no unusual wear on either sets of tires, and I drive it hard. This may have just been a bad batch where some people have had issues, or it may just be a shoddy tech in the factory? Either way, alignment check is your only real answer unfortunately.
 

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Rotating my tires today noticed I need new tires in the rear. I've been told it looks like my car had too much negative camber. I always dismissed it because I thought the SX was "set up" for performance handling over the LX and EX Seeing as I dont have one to compare them and needing new tires after 27k I question this now. I WILL say I havent rotated the tire as much as I prob should have but I think this would be the third time rotating them since I bought it new.
Negative camber gives the impression of "Built for Speed" and some cars have extreme camber because they are designed for the track. A small amount of camber is normal on everyday cars, but it is usually accompanied by toe-in to balance the wear. If you have rotated the tyres 3 times in 27k, that is about right, but if you have an alignment problem, you are simple spreading the wear. Really wide tyres are more subject to camber-related wear.

Many new cars are not aligned correctly. One of mine (not KIA) was supposedly aligned by the dealer, but obviously wasn't right; after about 2k, I took it to an independent tyre place for a 4-wheel laser align. Apparently, it's a good idea to let the chassis "settle" a bit before doing an alignment.

Some cars have suspensions that are non-adjustable for camber. Your best option in that case is to run non-asymmetric tyres and flip them/swap sides about halfway through their life.

By the way, perhaps you have a history with njerald, but his reply was succinct and to the point IMHO.
 

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Getting new tires Tuesday. Regardless I will have the alignment checked. I checked for other threads on camber but I didn't find anything. I'll make sure to post the findings of the machine once I get the new tires on first. Just passing this along....Discount Tires Direct had came out cheaper on the Optimo tires by a pretty good margin.
 

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Another guy had the same thing last year. I'm sure that thread couldn't be too far down to access. Seems like I remember his camber did turn out to be too severe. Unfortunately a lot of the thread was taken up by weenies who didn't understand that the rear wheels normally 'squat' on cars with independant rear suspension. I have about 19000 miles now and have only rotated once. No unusual wear yet. Another thing is, many owners do not maintain their tire pressures properly. I think incorrect pressure, either low or high, might cause inside wear on the rear. But at best, it would not help the situation.
I keep a good watch on the tires on mine, because with any luck I'll be able to trade it in on a 2016 without buying new tires. That will require at least 50K. I will be pissed if I have to drop $800 on it 6 months before trading in June, but I am not going through the '15/'16 winter with bald tires. It is what it is.
 

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Edit...thankfully there is a ignore feature I encourage everyone to ignore njerald he provides nothing good to this forum PERIOD!!
not true - its good for a laugh every now and then!

To your issue - do what i did. Take it to get it aligned at a specialist.

They found it 2 degrees out in places! The kia service guys insisted nothing was wrong when I was describing the steering issues - I couldn't believe them and out of frustration I swung into a reputable laser alignment shop one day and the difference is chalk and cheese. FYI camber can be adjusted on these cars.
 

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Really im not trying to rehash my frustration with njerald... as someone else said maybe I have a history with him. Fact of the matter is I just dont value his opinions I have noticed his negative comments too many times. At least for me. It gets old.

I did see an eccentric on the lower control arm so I know it can be adjusted. Got the new tires on at work today. That being said I'll get it checked this weekend.
 
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