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So since the migration there has been alot of change. Obvously the bugs had to be fixed and we are almost caught up on them. Now that you've all gotten a feel for teverything I wanted to start this thread for suggestions and feedback only.
 

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Suggestion from a very long-time forum user and admin, but n00b Kia guy...

The separate sub-forums under the car model listings add more complication than they are worth, for a couple of reasons.

First, in many cases posts that might be made by the owner of on particular sub-model might still be pertinent to the owner of a different one, so you still read every one of the forums anyway, in case you might miss something useful. Alternately, people who might not do this are definitely missing stuff that might be useful to them.

Second, not everyone uses the different sub-model forums consistently. Some people who have a SPec5 (for example) will only post in the Spec5 forum, ever. Others will try to judge if their post is pertinent to all Spec owners, or not, and pick a forum accordingly. Still others (n00bs especially :) ), will miss the distinction between the forums entirely and use the main one even if there is an appropriate sub-forum.

Third, with the current structure it takes too long for someone who likes to look at all of the different forums to casually surf through all of the model forums...in fact, I can say that if the sub-forums weren't there, I'd surf every forum on there...but with the current structure it takes so long to do it that I don't bother.

Fourth, and probably most compelling, is that doing the separate model sub-forum thing is something to be done to solve a problem...in this case, the problem would be that there is such a massive flood of posts that we need help breaking them down into useful chunks so that the huge volume of information and communication is manageable for the users. As much as we all love Kias, and this cool forum, none of the individual forums here are anywhere near this kind of volume...most get just a few posts/day.

On a side note, I can say from experience that one of the keys to growing a thriving forum community is perceived traffic. The more there is, the better and bigger the community gets. By breaking up the model forums into sub-forums, it artificially reduces the perceived amount of traffic. To use the Spectra forum as an example...to a user, 8 new threads in the sole Spectra forum "feels" like more activity than 3 in the Spec5 forum, 4 in the main Spec forum, and 1 in the other Spec sub-forum.

SO...my suggestion is to collapse the model sub-forums into just the main headings, and let the posters differentiate when needed.

Oh, and I hope this goes without saying, but I love your forum and I appreciate the work you put into it. Thanks for being here!


EDIT: holy crap...this thread is a year and a half old, and this is the only suggestion you ever got? Come on...really?
 

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Suggestion from a very long-time forum user and admin, but n00b Kia guy...

The separate sub-forums under the car model listings add more complication than they are worth, for a couple of reasons.

First, in many cases posts that might be made by the owner of on particular sub-model might still be pertinent to the owner of a different one, so you still read every one of the forums anyway, in case you might miss something useful. Alternately, people who might not do this are definitely missing stuff that might be useful to them.

Second, not everyone uses the different sub-model forums consistently. Some people who have a SPec5 (for example) will only post in the Spec5 forum, ever. Others will try to judge if their post is pertinent to all Spec owners, or not, and pick a forum accordingly. Still others (n00bs especially :) ), will miss the distinction between the forums entirely and use the main one even if there is an appropriate sub-domain.

Third, with the current structure it takes too long for someone who likes to look at all of the different forums to casually surf through all of the model forums...in fact, I can say that if the sub-forums weren't there, I'd surf every forum on there...but with the current structure it takes so long to do it that I don't bother.

Fourth, and probably most compelling, is that doing the separate model sub-forum thing is something to be done to solve a problem...in this case, the problem would be that there is such a massive flood of posts that we need help breaking them down into useful chunks so that the huge volume of information and communication is manageable for the users. As much as we all love Kias, and this cool forum, none of the individual forums here are anywhere near this kind of volume...most get just a few posts/day.

On a side note, I can say from experience that one of the keys to growing a thriving forum community is perceived traffic. The more there is, the better and bigger the community gets. By breaking up the model forums into sub-forums, it artificially reduces the perceived amount of traffic. To use the Spectra forum as an example...to a user, 8 new threads in the sole Spectra forum "feels" like more activity than 3 in the Spec5 forum, 4 in the main Spec forum, and 1 in the other Spec sub-forum.

SO...my suggestion is to collapse the model sub-forums into just the main headings, and let the posters differentiate when needed.

Oh, and I hope this goes without saying, but I love your forum and I appreciate the work you put into it. Thanks for being here!
That was a mouthful, but my thoughts exactly. :)
 

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Well put dietDrThunder, some very good points raised.

Luckily the Cee'd hasn't been split into Cee'd & Cee'd SW (not yet anyway)

I also agree that a lot of hard work goes into the running of the forum and it is much appreciated.

Keep up the good work.....
 

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Well is the case of say the spectras. THe 04.5+ is a totallly different car than the 00-04 spectras. Hence the sub forum. Same with the sephias. 1st gens 95-97 are a total different car than the 98-01s. Again thats why there is a sub. I don't know much about the other kias so I cant say anything there...
 

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As I mentioned above...I understand why there are subforums...but people mis-post in the different ones all the time...and the availability to post in the main forum in addition to the sub-forums makes it even worse. This site doesn't get anywhere near enough traffic to justify the extra complication of the sub-forums...they just make it more time consuming to surf the whole forum, and easier to miss stuff.

Anyway, I do appreciate the reply and your efforts modding the place...thanks!
 

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I think its fine the way it is. Yeah people do post in the wrong forum but us mods move them to the correct one. If it aint broke, dont fix it.
 

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I think its fine the way it is. Yeah people do post in the wrong forum but us mods move them to the correct one. If it aint broke, dont fix it.
How is that not broken? If there weren't meaningless subforums to segregate out the 2 or 3 posts/day, mods woudn't have to move them around. I don't get it...
 

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I am new to this forum but it seems very difficult to start a new thread. i can not seem to find any area for help that would explain things.
 

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I agree. It seems to be IMPOSSIBLE to start a new thread. I have been using computers since before I could drive (and I've been driving for 47 years), I used to run a computer business and am no stranger to difficult interfaces, but I CANNOT discover how to start a new thread. HELP was no help, and no response to emails. I did see a menu item once, but could never find it again.
On a positive note: There is some interesting info amongst the posts, but thread structure is a bit silly. Respose of site is very slow.
 

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Dr Bob;

I don't know if this is what you are looking for but above the red bar that says "Threads in Forum..." there is a button to activate a new topic (thread)
Is this what you mean? I am not trying to be a smart a$$ just trying to help.


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That's exactly what I wanted; thanks. Button does not appear in some forums. No longer contributing.
There's a few sections in which that button would not appear - what sections of the forum did you have in mind ?
 

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Would it be possible to add a sticky thread at the top of each group that would have recall information pertaining to that groups model? I see postings of problems in the XM Sorento group that are part of a KIA recall. If a sticky was at the top of the group I would think a lot of the questions could be answered with out having to type the same information over and over in separate posts. It could include the recall number for the owner when talking to the KIA dealer and what the recall covers for the repair. My local KIA dealer tried to push an oil change on me before doing a recall, then I find out that the recall included an oil change and filter. This information can be useful for owners and save them some money instead of giving the dealership a double dip (charge) on the oil change from the owner and KIA too; where the dealer gets paid twice for the same oil change.
 

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What does the community think of this?
If there's a positive feedback on this, we can get this passed along to the other mods/admins.

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I do not think to many people view this page when you look at the time between posts. It was over 6 years since the last post before I posted about adding re-call information. If you are asking others what they think, I do not believe you are going to get many if any reply's on this thread when you look at the times that discussions have taken place here.
 

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We've had this in the past and the sticky draws attention for some time and then its popularity wanes.

My experience is that you'll find posts directly below the informative sticky asking questions that are clearly covered in the sticky immediately above their post.

I would prefer to place a reminder promoting the search function.
 
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