[mario41051]

Hi, I have a 2016 Kia Sorento LX 2.4

Sometime it doesn’t start when on P (it doesn’t crank at all).

I have the feedback that the car recognizes to be on P from the dash and because the key is realesed when i turn off the car.

When it doesn’t start, I have to release manually the stick shift and shifting to N, then the car cranks and starts.

Any idea?

Thanks!

 

[leo42.2875]

Mario, the shift selector is out of adjustment or the switch is at fault, Use a scanner and confirm the ECU/BCM is reading the selector switch correctly.

 

[ecanderson]

Yes - the dash indication comes from the range control switch on the transmission, so things can look fine there when they aren't elsewhere. There's a separate P/N switch in the shift lever assembly that may be the culprit. It's in the same assembly as the shift lock solenoid and the up/down shift switches. Switch signal feeds straight back to the BCM, and if not working properly, the BCM will see that and be providing a 'no go' signal on the bus for starting.

 

[mario41051]

Thank you. What scanner do you recommend? For now I only have an obd2 handheld reader Ancel VD700 which probably can’t read the selector switch state.

Both the dashboard and the indicators next to the stick shift, shows me car on P.

Mario, the shift selector is out of adjustment or the switch is at fault, Use a scanner and confirm the ECU/BCM is reading the selector switch correctly.

 

[mario41051]

S ometime even so I have the stick in P, I can shift without turning on the car. That should be possible if the lock was engaged.

What allows to release the key from the stearing once you turn off the car? The sensors on the transmission or the switch on the stick?

Yes - the dash indication comes from the range control switch on the transmission, so things can look fine there when they aren't elsewhere. There's a separate P/N switch in the shift lever assembly that may be the culprit. It's in the same assembly as the shift lock solenoid and the up/down shift switches. Switch signal feeds straight back to the BCM, and if not working properly, the BCM will see that and be providing a 'no go' signal on the bus for starting.

 

[mario41051]

something else interesting is that my car is set to beep when i lock the car with the remote and to beep any time a press the lock button.

when properly on P the car beep when I lock her, when instead is on P and it doesn’t beep while locking her, I will have to shift to N to start the car.

Today I vigorously shifted back and forward the stick multiple times and for now it has not failed one start on P.

 

[Coolwhip]

Had a similar issue awhile back. Under the battery tray is where the trany linkage is.Got everything out, cleaned the linkage (which was full of dirt). Lubricated with rust spray(try and spay in the cable).Shift like butter.now.Simple fix and never had a shifter problem in two years. Might be worth a try. Good luck

 

[Petso]

Had a similar issue awhile back. Under the battery tray is where the trany linkage is.Got everything out, cleaned the linkage (which was full of dirt). Lubricated with rust spray(try and spay in the cable).Shift like butter.now.Simple fix and never had a shifter problem in two years. Might be worth a try. Good luck

Would be good for alot of us to check. Especialy me who had the underengine cover broken for a few years and I only put the aluminium one last fall. I go down dirt roads alot in the summer to go fishing. I'm sure mine is dirty. Unless the dealer cleaned it when they replaced my engine.

 

[mario41051]

Indeed, the problem started about a year ago.
I started noticing that leaving the car unused for a few weeks, made the stick shift to be more hard to move. However was still working and after a few handling, it was back to normal.
After I left my car one month parked and unused at the airport, once back the stick shift was totally stuck.
I have managed to get it to move again but this time I have removed the console. I could see a lot of debris kind of sticky on the slot where the stick slides, I cleaned it and lubricated with wd40 as well as the pin that lock the stick when the car is off.
The car couldn t detect the P at all and in order to start it, I had to move the stick manually to N (using the release trigger).
The car was back up working again well after a few miles and handling but this time the stick stayed unusually hard to move.

On a boring weekend I have decided to mess with the car and I have disassembled the whole center console and sprayed the inside of the stick cable with WD40.
I have also reached the other end of the cable, right under the battery and I have sprayed wd40 all over the place. That area was pretty dirty, the salt from the Wisconsin road didn't help...

Now the car works fine, what I'm using to do lately is to push in P with more energy when parking and I don't get the problem. I need to try to slide the stick normally to see if I still have this problem or not.

Had a similar issue awhile back. Under the battery tray is where the trany linkage is.Got everything out, cleaned the linkage (which was full of dirt). Lubricated with rust spray(try and spay in the cable).Shift like butter.now.Simple fix and never had a shifter problem in two years. Might be worth a try. Good luck

 

[mario41051]

it appears good now.