my 09 EX doesnt do that.

one clockwise rotation of the key in the driver's door opens the driver's door, two opens all the doors and the rear hatch. No alarms go off when I open any of the doors or the rear hatch.

 

Maybe it's because I previously used the alarm fob to lock the doors? Did you lock the doors with the key also?

Are you able to lock all the doors with the key? I cannot. Only the driver's door is locked.

 

Maybe it's because I previously used the alarm fob to lock the doors?


no

Did you lock the doors with the key also?

yes, one counter clockwise rotation locks everything.

 

Hello all,

First problem, there is no lock on the back hatch in which to insert the key. Here is cost cutting for you.
In any case, it does. The other thing I was not able to lock all the doors using the key, just the driver door. But again the manual says:

If you lock the door with a key, all vehicle doors will lock automatically (if equipped).
Well, I don't see that. Is it because of the "If equipped"?

Anyway, love the Rondo, but there are these minor annoyances poking at me.

in my opinion I don't consider the hatch without a key to be cost cutting, it would be far more cheaper just to install a standard key lock - no electronics, or sensors to worry about and saves a lot of wiring. Besides you can just unlock the tailgate only with the one button on the key fob.

Sloppy has "hit the nail on the head", as it would appear you have only turned the key to the right once (which is for unlocking the drivers door only), but have to do it a second time to the right to unlock all the doors including the tailgate. No point in unlocking all the doors if there is only you. Turning the key to the left locks all the doors.

Don't think you will every find a perfect car no matter how much money you pay for it.

 

Its strange. I have tried many combination of clockwise and counter clockwise key turns and my current conclusion is that:

1. I can only lock the driver's door with a counter clockwise turn. The other doors stay unlocked. No amount of key turning will lock the other doors.
2. If the car was locked with the key fob (and the alarm armed), using the ignition key to unlock the driver's door and opening the door will result in the alarm going off.

Of course I could be mistaken, and that is why I will try again tomorrow and pay more attention to the sequence.

 

Same thing happens to me (3 month old 09 EXV6). When I mentioned it to the dealer, he said "never heard of that problem"!

 

Just curious, did you took the remote starter option on your Rondo?

I purchased one when I bought my Rondo at the dealer but the remote starter were not factory. I received to new remotes that control the starter and the alarm but not the factory alarm but the one that came with the remote starter. Both alarms (factory and the one from the remote starter) are still working but I use only the new remotes.

In my case with the new system I can still lock all doors with two counter clockwise rotations.
The new alarm is probably installed in parallele with the original one (no bypass).

 

No. No remote starter.

I tried again and I can confirm that:

Car has been locked with the key fob for a while.
Unlock the door with ignition key.
Open the door: the alarm goes off.

After stopping the alarm, try to lock with the ignition key. Only the driver's door is locked. I tried 1 or 2 turns of keys, tried keeping it turned a bit longer, tried both directions (clockwise and counter clockwise), I was never able to lock the other doors with the ignition key.

I guess I will call the dealer. At a minimum I would like a functional car even if I lose the key fob or the battery dies.

 

jcpmont,
can you unlock or lock any door/doors from lock in the passenger door?


EDIT
My tests.
I can unlock with one turn drivers door (no alarm), two turns within 3 seconds will unlock all doors+trunk. No alarm either.
If locked with key (one turn opposite way) all doors+trunk remain locked, and after 30 seconds alarm is activated (opening of any door - including hood will trigger alarm). Key turn will turn it off.
Does not matter whether I lock it or unlock it (in any, ANY, order) with key or fob. I mean - locked with fob, unlocked with key or opposite.

Forgot to add.
2007 EX V6, US version.

 

jcpmont,
can you unlock or lock any door/doors from lock in the passenger door?



there is no key lock in passenger door,YOU DO KNOW THAT RIGHT.

 

Thanks for taking the time to test this.
To answer your question, there is no lock in the passenger door.

 

My key on the 2009 EX works just like jcpmont, when turned to the right the door does unlock and then when i open the door the alarm goes off.

Also turning the key twice to the right does not appear to open all doors.

 

something is wrong or perhaps you are waiting too long (will arm after 30 seconds if nothing has been opened) I read the '09 owners manual (Page 4/9 and 4/10) and it works the same as the '08.

Also for opening it states:
Turn the key toward the rear of the vehicle to unlock and toward the front
of the vehicle to lock.
• If you lock the door with a key, all vehicle doors will lock automatically. (if
equipped)
• From the driver’s door, turn the key to the right once to unlock the driver’s
door and once more within 4 seconds to unlock all doors

I would imagine the EX would be equipped but maybe not the LX.

 

But you do have a remote starter, don't you?

I am hoping the dealer can reproduce the problem on a EX he has on his lot, because the dealer is 150KM away and I don't want to have to go there for nothing. At least one other person has the same problem as mine (base11) so it might be widespread. After all, I am not sure many people would actually try this, most people being happy with just using the keyfob.

 

I did try just after I got the car. And it works fine. Like I said before.
I do not know why the dealer would have to reproduce the problem on any other Rondo. If this is with yours, then it is wrong and period. They have to fix it.
I was wondering - once alarm went off when door opened by the key, how did you turn it off?

And, to make sure. If the fob/alarm system was installed in the factory (KIA), it is not any aftermarket system, then it should work like the manual says. And it is covered under warranty.

something is wrong or perhaps you are waiting too long (will arm after 30 seconds if nothing has been opened) I read the '09 owners manual (Page 4/9 and 4/10) and it works the same as the '08.

If you used the ignition key, it will not re-arm. At least during the test I conducted. Once you unlock the door - it will remain unlocked. Alarm will not go off when you open the door even after 65 seconds from unlocking.

 

Tke key also turned to the left only locks the driver door just like jcpmont.

I tried many different things to lock all the doors and it just doesnt work. I think I am bright enough to understand the instructions.

Most cars I have had in the past you hold it to the right to open all doors and a quick turn to the right just opens the driver.

When I tried opening the door with the key today at lunch, the alarm again went off. You can hit any key on the (door opener gadget) to turn the alarm off.

Will take this up with dealer in the future, but still battling with the wind noise issue. If my (automatic door opener was broken) i guess i would have to wait the alarm out?

 

A little off topic but still about the alarm...Does anyone else find it a bit strange that there is not indication that the car has an alarm system in it? I just got my Rondo and noticed this the other day when I saw the little red light flashing on the dash of my wifes car but nothing on the Rondo. No big deal I guess, but every other car I have owned with an alarm system had the indicator light to show it was on, or that it existed. Just an observation.
Too fussy, or what???

 

Not fussy at all, IMO, grs63. Originally, I placed a fake blinking alarm light on the dash that I purchased from eBay, which was powered by a watch battery and can be switched on/off by a discrete button. Problem was, the blinking LED light was barely visible during the daytime. I replaced it with a toy, believe it or not, that is basically a red disc with a large blinking light inside of it. I got it as a freebie from a movie screening that I attended that was sponsored by an airline. The toy supposed to be a facsimile of the blinking red light on a plane, I guess.

 

Car Alarm goes off when door opened by key!

I sure this has already been discussed but I couldn't find the forum. Has anyone determined why the car alarm goes off when you open the drivers door with the key?

Thanks as usual.

CAG

2009 EX V6

 

I sure this has already been discussed but I couldn't find the forum. Has anyone determined why the car alarm goes off when you open the drivers door with the key?

Thanks as usual.

CAG

2009 EX V6

first of all, add info about your location, and the car too.
then, try to use "search tool".

merged with the right thread...

 

I actually talked to the dealer's service guy about this. He told me that he keeps having to remind his mechanics to use the key fob and not only the key when they go and fetch a car from the lot. They tend to use the key and the alarm goes off. So it seems to be a problems with a bunch of 2009. At first he told me it was normal, but then I made him realize that if I lost/broke my key fob, I cold not use the car. In any case he was supposed to talk to Kia Canada about this, but I really do not expect much on this front.

 

Thanks jcpmont. You are absolutely right this is a problem if you lose the fob. Let us know if you hear anything from KIA.

As a side note, did the service guy indicate if it was just Rondo's or other KIA models as well with this problem?

Thanks again.

 

Not sure. I think the service guy meant 2009 Rondo. Not sure if it was only some trims or all 2009 Rondos

 

HI
Been off the site lately, but this is a problem with 2009 EX 4 cylinders(canada anyway), we tested about 4 at the dealerships. (the 6 cylinder worked fine). KIA Korea has updated the manual.

This is what you have to do and it works but irritating.

1) you open the car with the key and the alarm goes off for 30 seconds.
2) insert the key in the ignition and turn to on (lights on no start) and wait 30 seconds, the alarm may go off during this.
3) start your car.

it works. they mailed me the updated manual page.
the keys does not lock all the doors or open them etc, this is just the way it is.

thanks

 

yes JCPmont, your car works like all 2009 EX 4 cylinders. KIA has an update for the manual that they mailed me. You can start the car by turning the key to on for 30 seconds waiting then the alarm gets disabled and you can start the car. There is another thread on this same topic.

but yes when you open the car with the key the alarm goes off and the car cannot be started.

At the dealer we tested 4 brand new 2009 ex 4 and they all did it, but not the EX 6 cylinder.

This is good knowledge for all 2009 ex 4 cylinder owners as your remote may break one of these days or the battery dies and you wont be able to start your car.

 

""Same thing happens to me (3 month old 09 EXV6). When I mentioned it to the dealer, he said "never heard of that problem"!""

When tested only the 2009 EX 4 had the problem.

when i asked why the 6 cylinder did not react this way in our test, the service guy said different computer module, but who knows. Why would it be different? Maybe the computer modules that control this vary and most of the bad ones are in the 2009 4 cylinder, but really dont know the answer. All in all pretty sad, but i have heard other cars over the years have had this problem. e.g. honda a few years back.

 

The alarm on my '07 Rondo sporadically goes off for no reason when the car is locked. I'd dearly love to be rid of the alarm system because it's gotten to the point we cannot lock the car anymore when we go anywhere.

 

ruraltone, have you had your battery tested? I know vehicles I've had in the past have done that when the battery was on it's way out.