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figures from the US just made available:

MONTH OF APRIL - YEAR-TO-DATE

Model - 2008 - 2007 - 2008 - 2007
Rio - 4,052 - 3,279 - 13,150 - 9,588
Spectra - 8,406 - 7,203 - 26,419 - 21,696
Optima - 4,550 - 4,538 - 13,746 - 13,963
Amanti - 235 - 528 - 791 - 3,266
Sportage - 3,960 - 3,695 - 13,746 - 15,410
Sorento - 2,991 - 2,883 - 7,612 - 12,962
Sedona - 3,289 - 2,698 - 10,580 - 18,622
Rondo - 2,583 - 1,183 - 12,236 - 4,103

Total - 30,066 - 26,007 - 98,280 - 99,610

(sorry having trouble with the spacing, doesn't seem to work like a spreadsheet when you copy and paste)

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figures for KIA Canada for April
3,719 vs 3,318 for April 2007 up 12.1%
(do not have any model breakdown, yet)
 

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Kia Canada as of the end of April 2008, have sold 10,879 vehicles vs 9,543 for 2007 a 14% increase. They also have 2% of the Canadian market, where a year ago they had 1.9%. To put that in perspective here is the top ten for April 2008

1. GM - 22.5% vs 24.7% for 2007
2. Chrysler - 14.6% vs 14.9%
3. Ford - 12.6% vs 13.3%
4. Toyota - 12.2% vs 11.1%
5. Honda - 9.6% vs 7.8%
6. Mazda - 5.3% vs 5.5%
7. Hyundai - 4.8% vs 4.4%
8. Nissan - 4.6% vs 4.7%
9. Volkswagen - 2.1% vs 2.3%
10. Kia - 2.0% vs 1.9%
 

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Rondo for Canada just hit a all time monthly high (probably a all time low for the Amanti). Here is the model breakdown for April:

Rio - 1086
Spectra - 460
Magentis - 123
Amanti - 19
Rondo - 1039
Sportage - 541
Sorento - 136
Sedona - 315
 

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Kia USA April 2008 sales

Kia Motors America April sales up 16% - Automotive Business Review

Kia Motors America April sales up 16%
5th May 2008
By Staff Writer

Kia Motors America has announced that its sales in April 2008 increased 15.6% to 30,066 units, compared to 26,007 units in April 2007.

The company has reported year-to-date sales of 98,280 total units, compared to 99,610 units for the same period of 2007. Kia's April 2008 growth was led by Spectra and Optima, up 4.8% and 89.3% respectively over March 2008.

Rondo sales increased 118.3% to 2,583 units from 1,183 units in April 2007. Rio sales increased 23.6% to 4,052 units, compared to 3,279 units in April 2007, and Spectra sales increased 16.7% to 8,406 units from 7,203 units in April 2007.

Byung Mo Ahn, group president and CEO of Kia Motors America and Kia Motors Manufacturing Georgia said: "As consumers are looking to further stretch their dollar in the midst of rising gasoline prices and a downward sliding economy, we are pleased to see Kia's fuel-efficient and dynamic product line continue to appeal to new car buyers."

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MONTH OF APRIL YEAR-TO-DATE
Model 2008 2007 2008 2007
Rio 4,052 3,279 13,150 9,588
Spectra 8,406 7,203 26,419 21,696
Optima 4,550 4,538 13,746 13,963
Amanti 235 528 791 3,266
Sportage 3,960 3,695 13,746 15,410
Sorento 2,991 2,883 7,612 12,962
Sedona 3,289 2,698 10,580 18,622
Rondo 2,583 1,183 12,236 4,103
Total 30,066 26,007 98,280 99,610
 

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Could part of the Amanti "problem" be that the car is just plain BUTT UGLY? Had it been built in 1958 the Edsel would have outsold it three to one on looks alone!

My humble opinion, mind you..
 

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Well, IMHO the Rondo is ugly, but it's got a heart of gold.... KC
don't you think its time to get the snow out of your avatar background, I've seen enough of that stuff this year to last me a lifetime ;)

IMHO I actually think the Rondo is quite a good looking car, its growing on me, the more I look at it the better it gets :lol:
 

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Of course I saw it Conwelpic

Conwelpic - see, you're an "expert" and I'm just a "newbie". Can't expect much out of us Newbies!:D

Actually, I wanted to post the article and link, then I had a version of that table for April NICELY SPACED! I had reformatted it and sent it to an automotive manufacturing and engineering discussion group. Trouble is, it un-formatted itself and ended up looking just like yours afterall!

So it's not a Canadian language problem I guess - those tables just won't behave for anyone! ;)

Our road(s) through our subdivision total maybe four miles. Perhaps 200 homes. Tonight my daughter and I traveled through, counting, and added the ones we know are in the 'hood but were out and about. We came up with 12 Kias total, but ours is the only Rondo. Next door neighbor came home with a new Optimo Saturday. The "movement" grows...
 

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Our road(s) through our subdivision total maybe four miles. Perhaps 200 homes. Tonight my daughter and I traveled through, counting, and added the ones we know are in the 'hood but were out and about. We came up with 12 Kias total, but ours is the only Rondo. Next door neighbor came home with a new Optimo Saturday. The "movement" grows...
I live out in the country and I don't see another Rondo, or very rarely even another Kia going to and from work (34km round trip). But to put it in perspective, the Honda Civic which is the top selling car in Canada (they sold over 8,000 in April), I very rarely see even one of those. This area is mostly trucks, SUV's and minivans.
 

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About the Rondo's looks (as mentioned earlier), I've talked a lot about it over at Edmunds and at times I've sounded goofy and at other times I've sounded quite defensive about it. There's actually a reason for why I seem to be hung up on it.

Every now and then, I trawl the Web for any new info on the Rondo. A few months ago, I re-discovered a Mazda forum that I once frequented for a short period before I bought the Rondo. While reading some of the few posts about the Rondo, it seemed as though whenever the subject was brought up, there was always a certain Mazda5 owner who just couldn't pass up the opportunity to trash the Rondo, especially its looks.

That in itself doesn't really bother me that much. To each his own. The thing is, this same Mazda5 owner also participates at Edmunds's forums. Over there, even though he's clearly a Mazda5 apologist, he's a model of civility and fairness. I'm not sure why I care, but this two-faced behaviour really ticks me off. He passes himself off as Jekyll, but all I can see is Hyde (btw, anybody seen that BBC series "Jekyll"? Brilliant stuff).

I suppose I'm also a bit like Mr. Hyde, since I start seeing red whenever I see one of his posts, which explains why I try to stay away from the "Mazda5 vs. Rondo" discussions at Edmunds.

Anyway, enough with the therapy session--and totally off-topic, as usual. I mostly like the way the Rondo looks, although my opinion has wavered in the past. In fact, I just received a compliment on it this morning at an ice rink parking lot (where I go for public skating once a week. Ever heard of Mira Leung? She's always there practicing).
 

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I now have the complete listing of all vehicles sold in Canada for the month of April 2008, so if anyone is curious about any particular model of any brand, just let me know and I'll be glad to provide the figures.
 

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Discussion Starter #15 (Edited)
just announced:

Record May Sales for KIA Canada

Model MAY YEAR TO DATE
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2008 2007 2008 2007
Rio - 1015 873 3834 2675
Spectra - 818 661 2095 2514
Magentis - 159 195 506 735
Rondo - 1001 954 4235 2615
Amanti - 13 13 76 52
Sportage - 637 638 2491 2517
Sorento - 97 75 478 820
Sedona - 270 366 1174 1390

Total 4010 3775 14889 13318
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Rondo has just passed the 12,000 unit mark since its introduction into Canada.
 

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got the statistics for Total Light Vehicles in Canada for May: (manufacturer only)

Kia now has a 2.1% YTD market share, tied with Volkswagen

On a YTD basis vs 2007 Kia is up 11.8%

The largest increase YTD vs 2007 is the Smart car at 33.1%
The largest decrease YTD vs 2007 is SAAB at -41.9%

The largest increase for the month of May vs 2007 - Mercedes Benz at 44.8%
The largest decrease for the month of May vs 2007 - SAAB at -49.2%
 

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Presumably they have now sold 3 Smart cars this year vs only two last year !!!
no, that Mercedes-Benz figure of +44.8% has nothing to do with the Smart car, thats a separate entity.

Believe or not, the Smart car was down 17.3% for May vs 2007, but on a YTD basis they are up 33.1% for a total of 1,553 units.
 
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