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Hello everyone, I trust you're all well?

I currently have a 64 reg Hyundai i20 on a PCP agreement, which is due to end soon. I will be giving the car back and then looking to buy a family car, as my Wife is due to give birth to our baby boy, soon and will need more space. A lot of people have told my to go for a used Cee'd estate, as they're pretty well built etc (Hope the body panels are more robust than the i20!)

I'm torn between an Audi A4 Avant (B6) and the Kia. Can anyone on here help to sway me over to the Kia? And what mods are available for the Kia? (Such as lowering kits, alloys etc)

Many thanks in advance :)
 

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I drive a Pro Cee'd (the 3 door) and it's been the most reliable car I've ever owned.

From purchase at 28,000 miles to now 120,000 miles all that's gone wrong is:

Passenger side wing mirror heater element failed - fixed under warranty
Two sets of drop links - replaced under warranty
Windscreen washer jet broken - replaced under warranty
Car has gone into limp home mode twice, both times after a major service (air in the system, not bled properly)
Cruise Control switches occasionally don't respond (quite rare)

And that's it - all very minor niggles. Bar the hard ride and poor seats I can't recommend the Cee'd highly enough. The only mod I've had done is privacy glass so can't comment on that side too much.
 

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Many thanks for the reply. What model is your Ceed? Pre face-lift? And has your driver side carpet holed itself yet? The carpet on my i20 is splitting after 20k. I just find the fit and finish quite cheap on Korean cars - is the ceed a step up from the i20, do you think?
 

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It's a 2008 pre facelift Pro Cee'd '3' 1.6 CRDi 113bhp (to give it it's full title).

The driver's side carpet is still in really good nick despite it's 120,000 miles. The build quality on it I have found to be generally excellent, really solidly put together. Apart from the steering wheel getting a bit shiny in places and the driver's seat has a little, but very acceptable wear you can't really tell the car's mileage. The only problem I've had with the interior trim is the plastic underneath the drivers side arm rest has split (not broken, just split where it fits together) and the rubber covering it has gone into the groove - it's really minor though.

Where I mark the Kia down is some of the materials used - glovebox and some of the other lower parts of the dash are made out of some seriously low rent material, but it's sturdy and well put together, and they've been wise to limit it to areas of the interior you're unlikely to touch much. Where it matters - center console, steering wheel buttons etc, they are fitted with really satisfying, well damped controls that are a joy to use, and are as nice as any car I've owned.

I've never been in an i20 so can't really comment, but driven a Venga which is the Kia equivalent and found it to be a pleasurable little car.
 

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That's comforting to know. How's the 1.6 diesel engine? Quiet etc? And any rattles from the trim etc? Sorry for all the questions. It's just my head says Kia SW, but my heart says Audi A 4 Avant 1.9!
 

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I have a 2008 5 Door Hatch. Also 113BHP
Owned for 6 Years/100K. Now on 120K

My Driver Side Carpet is worn but only because I have worn a hole in the Mat!
Other than slight wear on the bolster (half leather), the interior is in great condition.
Lots of stone chips but I think that's modern eco Paint. Mine is blue which makes them more obvious.
No rattles other than the rear view Mirror which I have hopefully just fixed.

Decent sized boot in the Hatch.

The Engine is noisy at idle like most diesels. Quiet on the move. I was sat next to a VAG Diesel the other Day and surprised at the noise.
Goes pretty well. I read better than the 1.6D Focus.
I make no effort to drive economically and get around 47mpg

Mine has been very reliable
A Wheel Bearing, Drop Link and Washer Jets under Warranty
I replaced a Climate Control Flap motor Outside.
My Turbo is whistling but local Diesel Specialist advised slight bearing wear and not worth changing yet as still pulling well.

Alloys will be available. I have 17" and find the ride a bit hard. Handles quite well.
I think I have seen someone fitting different suspension along with a few other bits on the other Kia Site.

The A4 Avant is a much nicer looking Car than the Ceed SW in my personal opinion.
I have only driven a 2.0 Petrol A4 Saloon, so can't comment on performance vs the Ceed.

The Ceed is a good, well built and very capable Car.
 

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That's comforting to know. How's the 1.6 diesel engine? Quiet etc? And any rattles from the trim etc? Sorry for all the questions. It's just my head says Kia SW, but my heart says Audi A 4 Avant 1.9!
The 1.6 CRDi is an excellent unit. Yes you can hear it at idle but it becomes all but silent on the move. For a small capacity four cylinder diesel it's an extremely smooth and refined engine, and doesn't deliver it's power in a big lump like some older diesels. I've owned and driven a number of diesels, and this one is right up there with the best, I've owned a Citroen 2.2 HDi, Saab 9-3 2.2 TiD and BMW 320d Compact and I rank the Cee'd's engine far above all these for refinement and power delivery. The only diesel I've driven that I'd rank above is the 3.0 6 cylinder BMW, high praise indeed. You will find that a 1.9 TDi A4 will sound agricultural by comparison. Performance wise, it's just quick enough to not be classed as slow, and I'm getting a consistent 50-53mpg out of it.

The other thing to bear in mind also is that all pre 2010 1.6 CRDi Cee'ds don't have a Dual-mass flywheel, Diesel Particulate Filter or a Cambelt, so it's a win-win.
 

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All brilliant information, many thanks. I have read that some of the paint colours on the ceed do like to chip pretty badly. Would I be better off buying a silver one to hide them all?! Also, do any of you know the dimensions of the mk1 ceed SW in inches? Cheers
 

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My pro is in the Mars Red, and it has a few stone chips but nothing out of the ordinary. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
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