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Finally! someone is willing to pursue this.
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sign up to get your $20 in 8 years while the lawyers take home millions.
Finally! someone is willing to pursue this.
Hyundai And Kia Gdi Engines Class Actions
Your first comment made it appear that you were enthusiastic about this lawsuit, but that last remark is clearly totally negative. So which is it? Great news, or pure stupidity? (with the later being my choice)
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I'm a pretty level headed guy, generally this is how class action lawsuits go: They drag on for years, the lawyers raking in big bucks and us, the folks that have dealt with these problematic cars, get enough to cover a couple big macs or if you're lucky a tank of fuel. It's nice to see the problem being recognized and the the manufacturer being held accountable but I have low expectations for any type of reasonable compensation. The pain in the ass and doubt that we experienced and continue to experience with our 2018 and many others have as well (judging by the amount of engine cores at my local dealer) wont likely be compensated reasonably.
If this makes you feel any better, this is not my first 2.0T or t-GDI from hyundai / kia
I owned one of the first sonata 2.0t 2011 models with the sport package. Great car, first year of new chassis and entirely new engine. Back then is when this all started and I never had a lick of trouble out of the 2.0t, and now I have a 2017 kia sportage SX with the 2.0t engine (newer version of the same one in the earlier sonata) and no problems with the new one either. If taken care of, you have a small chance of encountering issues. Slack on the maintenance and otherwise abuse it, your results may differ. The sonata 2.0t went over 100k miles before I traded in, still ran like new at that time, and never burned / used oil. I have now at over 70k miles on the 2017 sportage sx and seeing the same circumstances. no oil use / loss, no smoking, runs just fine.
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I don't think the same can be said for our 2.4 lol
I do keep an eye on the lawsuits and complaints for sure. It certainly weighs on my mind, but I do my best to maintain properly, keeping an eye out for anything out of the ordinary. As long as it keeps up like it is, not using any oil and behaving I am counting myself lucky so far.
2012 Hyundai Sonata Limited - And in 2-3mos a 2021 Kia K5
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I am still driving my 2012 Hyundai Sonata with a 2.4L and it now has 204k miles on it and I have only had to make one engine repair and that was a integrated fuel pump and that basically went bad because of mileage. This car is still my daily driver and runs great. I would agree with pcguy, if you drive responsibly and do your maintenance on your car (every 4k miles) it 'should' run a long time with very little issue. Or at a minimum you should reach 100k mi with no major repairs besides basic tune-up, brakes and tires.
Granted in the past I have always stayed away from turbo engines because it adds complexity, both hyundai and kia are both going all in on the turbo engines. You would think if they are still giving their warranties that the system is solid for the most part because if it isn't they will be paying for a lot of car repairs during warranty period.
I am looking very close at the K5 GT and my only big worry was this new transmission, but with the 10yr warranty on that system I think I am fairly safe there.
I got that letter in the mail about the lawsuit about the engine, I dropped it in the trash
Granted in the past I have always stayed away from turbo engines because it adds complexity, both hyundai and kia are both going all in on the turbo engines. You would think if they are still giving their warranties that the system is solid for the most part because if it isn't they will be paying for a lot of car repairs during warranty period.
I am looking very close at the K5 GT and my only big worry was this new transmission, but with the 10yr warranty on that system I think I am fairly safe there.
I got that letter in the mail about the lawsuit about the engine, I dropped it in the trash
One thing I do not like about the warranty is the possibility of getting a rebuilt engine or transmission in a nearly new car. When I had my Sonata 2.0t ultimate the turbo went out and cylinder 2 spark plug 'blew' up. Luckily it didn't mess the engine up. A dealership rep and tech told me Hyundai, so im assuming kia as well, replaces engines under warranty with rebuilt units. IDK how other car companies handle it. I don't like the idea of getting a rebuilt engine when my car or suv has less than 20k miles on it.I am still driving my 2012 Hyundai Sonata with a 2.4L and it now has 204k miles on it and I have only had to make one engine repair and that was a integrated fuel pump and that basically went bad because of mileage. This car is still my daily driver and runs great. I would agree with pcguy, if you drive responsibly and do your maintenance on your car (every 4k miles) it 'should' run a long time with very little issue. Or at a minimum you should reach 100k mi with no major repairs besides basic tune-up, brakes and tires.
Granted in the past I have always stayed away from turbo engines because it adds complexity, both hyundai and kia are both going all in on the turbo engines. You would think if they are still giving their warranties that the system is solid for the most part because if it isn't they will be paying for a lot of car repairs during warranty period.
I am looking very close at the K5 GT and my only big worry was this new transmission, but with the 10yr warranty on that system I think I am fairly safe there.
I got that letter in the mail about the lawsuit about the engine, I dropped it in the trash
Kia does not rebuild these engines. These aluminum block engines are sent to the recycler and brand new engines are The Replacements. The same goes with Ford and other car companies that use aluminum block engines as they are not rebuildable.
I am not sure where you might have been told that. Kia likely does ship a new engine to the dealership for installation. That being said, aluminum block engines absolutely are quite often rebuilt. I know Toyota did so on my 1mzfe v6 engine in my 2000 avalon.
Machine shops often rebuild aluminum block engines, there really isn't anything wrong doing so, provided the bores are in good condition.
I've searched but couldn't come up with anything. Is there an existing thread concerning the class action for the knock sensor issue on the Sportage?
Last week, I got the paperwork and I have some questions.
Thanks.
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Last week, I got the paperwork and I have some questions.
Thanks.
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that website didn't specify what engine defects but probably this one from the US Lawsuit
"Metallic debris may not have been fully removed during manufacturing of the engine crankshaft. If the debris was not completely removed, oil flow may be restricted through the connecting rod bearings, causing connecting rod damage. A worn connecting rod bearing will produce a metallic, cyclic knocking noise from the engine and possible engine failure. "
October 15, 2019
Hyundai and Kia set aside $758 million to settle a class action lawsuit for engine failures and fires. Both companies have been the focus of federal investigations related to the speed and scope of related recalls. The companies will install software to monitor for engine failure, provide lifetime engine warranties, and will include monetary compensation for past engine repairs and loss of value.
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"Metallic debris may not have been fully removed during manufacturing of the engine crankshaft. If the debris was not completely removed, oil flow may be restricted through the connecting rod bearings, causing connecting rod damage. A worn connecting rod bearing will produce a metallic, cyclic knocking noise from the engine and possible engine failure. "
October 15, 2019
Hyundai and Kia set aside $758 million to settle a class action lawsuit for engine failures and fires. Both companies have been the focus of federal investigations related to the speed and scope of related recalls. The companies will install software to monitor for engine failure, provide lifetime engine warranties, and will include monetary compensation for past engine repairs and loss of value.
Settlement Reached With Hyundai, Kia in Class Action Lawsuit Alleging Engine Damage, Fires
Hyundai and Kia set aside $758 million to settle a class action lawsuit for engine failures and fires. Both companies have been the focus of federal investigations related to the speed and scope of related recalls. The companies will install software to monitor for engine failure, provide...
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I got 'the letter' today. I'm filing it in my Sportage folder with no action. I haven't had any problems so I have nothing to submit. Once you have had the Knock Sensor update you have the lifetime warranty on the engine short block (block, pistons, crankshaft, oil pump) so that was nothing new.
I got a new battery in mine today at the dealer. Probably paid a few bucks too much but in case you were interested, it is a KIA-marked part. Anyway, standing in the shop and watching my car drive out, I was struck by the exhaust note - the muffler is getting a little louder and the firing of the engine was so perfectly smooth that the pipes had a nice little growl. I have never had an engine as smooth as this one. Coming out of the 2011 EX into the SX, that was the first thing I noticed - totally smooth and free-revving. It will be very easy to tell if a plug goes bad or anything else happens.
I got a new battery in mine today at the dealer. Probably paid a few bucks too much but in case you were interested, it is a KIA-marked part. Anyway, standing in the shop and watching my car drive out, I was struck by the exhaust note - the muffler is getting a little louder and the firing of the engine was so perfectly smooth that the pipes had a nice little growl. I have never had an engine as smooth as this one. Coming out of the 2011 EX into the SX, that was the first thing I noticed - totally smooth and free-revving. It will be very easy to tell if a plug goes bad or anything else happens.
I had gotten my Notice of Proposed Class Settlement package in the mail today. My Sportage now has 50k miles on it and is still running with no problems. I never went to go get the KSDS update in fear of it: 1, reducing performance, and 2, making the car go into limp mode immediately after the update. For those of you that have gotten the KSDS update, does the car drive any different or is the performance the same? If the car does go into limp mode, they will initiate the engine replacement with no further actions needed or questions asked, right?
Also, even if I never get the KSDS update and my engine starts to develop the problem sometime in the future, the engine replacement would still be covered by the original powertrain warranty, right?
Also, even if I never get the KSDS update and my engine starts to develop the problem sometime in the future, the engine replacement would still be covered by the original powertrain warranty, right?
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