Kia Forum banner

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hi,

I'm just curious about my car's fuel consumption. I pump SPC 95 since I got my car a month back. Full tank can only travel up to 330km before fuel indicator appears. It was only when I went for my first servicing that I managed to travel to 380 before indicator appears. However, I just tried Shell 95 but it went back to 330 again.

Is anyone else having the same consumption as mine? If yours are having better consumption, what petrol do you pump?

All advice are appreciated!

Thanks,
Picanchoo
 

·
Registered
2004 Kia Picanto
Joined
·
179 Posts
Hi I drive about 450-500km an buy the ceapest 95 gasoline I can find when I need to fill it up
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Originally posted by picanchoo@Jun 22 2005, 01:08 PM
I'm just curious about my car's fuel consumption. I pump SPC 95 since I got my car a month back. Full tank can only travel up to 330km before fuel indicator appears. It was only when I went for my first servicing that I managed to travel to 380 before indicator appears. However, I just tried Shell 95 but it went back to 330 again.
Hi,
It seems, that Picantos with automatic transmission consume more petrol than with hand gearboxes. My car also "drinks" too much IMO. The full tank lasts for 360 km.
Actually, I drive in heavy traffic - rush hours. It probably will drive about 390 - 400 km

Janoush
 

·
Registered
2004 Kia Picanto
Joined
·
49 Posts
Hi,

I have read a lot about the high fuel consumption of the Picantos. The car was supposed to perform with an average of 5 lit/100 km. Danish motor journalists seem to handle an average of 6.0 - 6.5 lit/100 km.

My own experience is that the first about 5,000 km the car was highly sensitive to the driving pattern. The fuel consumption could change in the range between 4.5 - 8 lit/100 km, which is schizofrenic :lol:

Yesterday, mine clocked 10,000 km and for the last month I have observed that fuel consumption is steadily 5 lit/100 km. A/C is never disabled. The car is used daily driving to my job. The car is used for shorter rides in the neighborhood.

Fuel is a local, cheap brand. Always marked 92 RON/octane. Rumours tell that this at some gas stations can be 95 RON as it is too expensive having separate tanks for both 92 and 95 RON.

When driving, I rev it up to max 5k rpm and cruise at 130 km/h on highway. This highway has always queue in the mornings and in the afternoon where I spend sometimes 30 minutes in idle.

I do not consider this as being a very careful driving pattern. So my conclusion is that the Pica can do the EEC figures - but it requires that your car has some kilometres on its clock... (remember having sufficient pressure in your tires)

Cheers B)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
Hi,

How old is your car? Is it auto or manual? Sounds impressive if it's an auto!

Lucky you!

Regards
Picanchoo
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12 Posts
I have found that my fuel consuption has got better the longer the car has had time to run in.

When i first got the car I was getting 8 or 9 miles to a litre, this improved to 10 miles a litre after a short time (1,000 miles) and then once I reached 8,000 miles it got even better and went to about 11 or 12 miles to a litre.

Its scarry that I have done 8,000 miles since december 04, but i am really pleased with the car and especially the fuel consumption.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Hi,

I normally pump v-power it can travel around 15km/liter but recently i pump esso 8000 mix with half tank of v power it can only travel 12km/liter. After this incident i go back to only v power which i manage to travel 15km/liter.

By the way is there any cheap patrol which allowes me to travell more and cheap..? Few days ago the v-power up by 9 cents which make me consider to cheaper patrol...!

Mine is less than a month old manual new car which up to now i only travel around 2400 km..!

Best,
limhouse
 

·
Registered
2004 Kia Picanto
Joined
·
49 Posts
Hi,

Interesting conclusions - my Pica burns the fuel leaner as it has clocked 10,000 km.

In Denmark we have some alternatives to Shell, Q8/Kuwait and Statoil/Esso. These alternative brands happen to be practically all owned by some of these above mentioned companies anyways... so basically, I believe that the fuel is the same product.

A former colleague once slipped off his tongue that oil and gas are the same - the only difference is the branding (he had worked for a very large oil company).

Some specialists claim that V-Power and that stuff does not have any effect on new cars. I happen to have some friends with cars with 200,000+ km on the clock, and there V-Power and Nitro3000 helps - meaning a lower fuel consumption. I have tried it out on my Pica and my wife's Fabia (it's new, too) and there was no difference at all in the fuel consumption.

By the way, my Pica is with manual transmission. Nevertheless, I considered buying my Picanto with auto but in Denmark it would've become way too expensive.

Enjoy your weekend! :D

Kneeler
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10 Posts
I've had fuel comsumptions between 5 and 8 liters per 100 km so far, but recently consumption has begun to go down. I have only clocked about 3.000km so far, so I guess the final consumption will be even less.

My last bill was at 6.2 liters/100km :closedeyes:

At first I was at least as shocked as you are, considering that I had just sold my BMW 318is coupé that took 7.5 liters on average but had more than twice the Picanto's power packed in a 2.0 liter engine and at least 300 kilos more weight.
 

·
Registered
2004 Kia Picanto
Joined
·
49 Posts
Hi Limhouse,

Frankly, I don't know whether low octane fuel makes engine dirty. The oil companies claim so... I've heard some mechanics tell me that the important thing is your driving pattern.

My wife has a Skoda Fabia 1,2-12V with A/C. It's supposed to run an average of 16,7 km/l without A/C. She runs an average of 18 km/l. When I drive it I achieve between 19 - 21 km/l. This is without driving extremely carefully. A/C is always running.

However, the garage always gives it a "cleaning treatment" at every service. I asked why. They say that when running so lean, the engine may tend to get "dirty".

I don't know if this is true. I've had many new cars and none of them ever got dirty. Once in a while I drive the cars to the max (kinda hard with the strict police we've got in Denmark), but this is the best medicine to clean the combustion chambers.


My own experience is that low octane fuel gives lower fuel consumption. As I've written once before, I've quoted a car magazine for claiming that this is due to the lower compression which is obtainable with low octane fuel. To me this shocked me, as I always thought that high compression meant better combustion!?

Sorry for not being able to give you a definite answer.

Cheers,
Kneeler B)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
When it comes to fuel consumption, two things have a large influence, namely:
-driver
-octane.

here is the formula i got from my exp. for cheap running:

speed range: 0-40 km/h
fuel 95 OCT
gear: 3rd
rpm: 1500-2000
note: sluggish but cheap
FC/100:(with AC): 6 l
extra notes: engine gets dirty


speed range: 40-80 km/h
fuel 98 OCT
gear: 3-4
rpm: 2000-3500
note: normal ride, cheapest
FC/100:(with AC): 5.5 l



speed range:80-120 km/h
fuel 98 OCT
gear: 4 - 5
rpm: 3500 - 4500
note: ideal, bit more expensive but a lot more of power
FC/100:(with AC): 6.5 l
extra notes: brake with engine if it's possible don't use brakes cuz you'll wear them down realy fast


speed range: 120 + km/h
fuel 98 OCT + additives
gear: 5th
rpm: 4000 - 5000
note: high speed
FC/100:(with AC): 7l
extra notes: high wear and tear engine & tires


optimal driving
slow: 50 km/h in 3rd at 2500 rpm (around 5.9 l) very safe
mid: 80-90 km/h in 4th at 2000-3000 rpm (around 5.6 l) avoid traffic.
high: 130 km/h in 5th at 4000 rpm (around 6.7 l).

my advice: when in city go with the slow option cuz most trafic lights have been setup for this kind of driving so you won't have to start stop a lot (this is the biggest expence you pay). and when you need to brake just drop it fast to 2nd and apply the brakes degresivly . This should prevent skidding and you''l be safe.
when on a inter city road go with mid and when braking go for 3rd and then 2nd while slowly but progresivly pressing the brake, you'll stop a lot sooner than if you just hit the brake.
And when you're on the highway go with high, just don't go slower or you'll have trouble maintaining speed and don't go faster cuz you'll waiste fuel like a bmw and if you need to brake fast, just go 5-4-3-2 as fast as possible every time giving a fragm


ent of time to the engine to run on road and aply brakes progresivly (if you don't have time to shift to 2nd then brake in 3rd, just don't hit the clutch untill you are somewhere between 10-15 km/h to avoid skiding).
All in all when driving, cheapest price you pay is for the fuel so don't risk paying a higher price to save fuel.
 

·
Registered
2004 Kia Picanto
Joined
·
49 Posts
Hey Mici,

Thx for a very accurate answer :) My own personal driving pattern is "mixed" meaning that I'm driving partially on rural roads (2 x 15 km a day travel speed 80-90 km/h) and high way with rush hour on some of it (2 x 15 km a day max speed 130 km/h and then sudden stop and go traffic).

I won't say I'm driving like an old man or a learner but I try avoiding revving up the engine unnecessarily. However, none of my cars seem to have had problems with "dirty engines" nor problems with the compression. Maybe this is due to the fact that I practically never have a ride below 20 km?

What's your average fuel consumption? For the last two months I've had an average of appr. 21 km/l with A/C constantly running. I assume this is OK for a Pica manual. Tires are original fuel saving Korean "cookies" 165/60R14.


Cheers,
Kneeler
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
Well my route is mostly some 5 kms per day in city and once or twice a week some 35km outside of city, and my average FC is somewhere around 5.5 - 6 l / 100km, that would be 16- 18 km /l. And i don't mind reving my engine every now and then.
The "dirty engine" problem doesn't allways have to do with the driving style or distance traveled, a lot of times the fuel is the problem. Depending on the quality of the fuel you use, you can have more or less problems with the engine. Even though there aren't many guidelines on finding the cleanest fuel brands there is a general rule i try to obide as much as possible. That is: "try to avoid high traffic fuel pumps".
Why? Well because on these pumps fuel doesn't get to settle and the dirt in it doesn't have time to drop to the bottom. Now even though that the ammount of dirt in the fuel is insignificant for one usage when you calculate for a let's say 10000 km you would use some 500 l of fuel. Now whenever you change oil in your car you can see that the color of the oil has changed from honey yellow to almost black. The main reason for this is dirt collected in the oil. Some of this dirt gradualy sticks to the walls of the shafts of your engine and if you don't rev up your engine every now and then you don't cause enough turbulence in the shaft to rip of this dirt from it's walls. To check this out pull out your spark plugs and try to clean them, you'll see how much dirt your engine has gathered. Eventualy most parts of your car system (engine and other combustion and lubrication parts) get kloged up and you might end up with a lot of inefficiency and high FC and other problems.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts

Are you all sure that, your oicanto can clock anverage of 12-16km/l?

Oh my god... I think my picanto has a problem.

I bought it in June05. it is auto transmission. the first 1000k is terrible. It only travel 200KM for a full tank. After the first 1k service it improves to 250km.
It only travel 10km/l !!!

What's wrong with my picanto?

I do travel to Msia before it hit first 1k...it is a 3-hr journey and i drove at speed of 100km/h.
it that cause the poor FC performance?


Can anyone consult?
Very dissappointed!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
56 Posts
I think your FC is pretty high though. I'm not a proffesional on this field but i can give u my record.
I'm a Auto owner too. Got the car mid July, until today clocked 1,500km. Ok, my first full tank i can cover 300KM. And it was around 280 to 300km until i went for my first service at 1,000km. Now my FC for full tank is 320 - 350km.
For your first tank at 2000km is really something. U might need to bring this up when u go for your next service.
Moreover, i'm not a light driver. I don't really bother about my FC, i just accelerate when i want to. Not the type who always want to bother about the FC. Meaning i'm not a light driver.
U should really bring up your matter to your service centre next visit.
 
1 - 16 of 16 Posts
Top