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Hi, I have great problems finding replacement brake pads for my Elan! It's not Lotus and not Kia Carens馃 Says Hankuk on them, I'm thankfull for good ideas馃槉 see photos. Regards Chr
Hi,

Looking at your photos, it confirms that your Elan did not get the factory brake upgrade, which was a larger diameter rotor and larger pads for increased friction surface - the original brakes were way undersized for this sports car.
https://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Centric/Brake_Pad_Set/CE103-dot-04660.html

The upgraded brakes take the same pads as the Carens, but the original brakes like yours use the same pad as the 2001-2002 Kia Rio base model and some Mazda vehicles also used them.

When I get home I'll post more detail, but in the meantime you can search online stores for 2001-2002 Kia Rio pads.

See the attached photos - one is of the parts that made up the brake upgrade and the other shows the difference in size.


Amazon.com: Bendix MRD466 Front Brake Pad: Automotive

https://www.ebay.com/itm/D466-FRONT-Brake-Pads-fits-Ford-Escort-2P-91-93-Aspire-94-97-Kia-Rio-01-02/121686396865?fits=Year:2002|Make:Kia|Model:Rio
 

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Thank you so much馃憤馃槉!!
It's also same as Mazda 323 ordered them and they will arrive tomorrow.
Regarding convertion kit - I will try new pads first and convert if it's hopeless馃憣
My trackday car is an other Frankenstein - a TVR Griffith so this will be a nice roadster for the gf馃榾
Have an issue with a not so nice rattle sound from mechanics - comes with throttle/revs and disappears once I leave the accelerator and just drive steady 5th. Hope for driveshaft bearing or wheel bearings.. Sounds better while lefthand turns, so hopefully my gearbox is okay馃
I'm going to have her on a lift stand on friday and take a closer look and giving her a service with new oil on engine and gearbox. Guess the amount of metal in the gear oil will give me a clue as aswell馃檲

Hi, I have great problems finding replacement brake pads for my Elan! It's not Lotus and not Kia Carens馃 Says Hankuk on them, I'm thankfull for good ideas馃槉 see photos. Regards Chr
Hi,

Looking at your photos, it confirms that your Elan did not get the factory brake upgrade, which was a larger diameter rotor and larger pads for increased friction surface - the original brakes were way undersized for this sports car.
https://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Centric/Brake_Pad_Set/CE103-dot-04660.html

The upgraded brakes take the same pads as the Carens, but the original brakes like yours use the same pad as the 2001-2002 Kia Rio base model and some Mazda vehicles also used them.

When I get home I'll post more detail, but in the meantime you can search online stores for 2001-2002 Kia Rio pads.

See the attached photos - one is of the parts that made up the brake upgrade and the other shows the difference in size.


Amazon.com: Bendix MRD466 Front Brake Pad: Automotive

https://www.ebay.com/itm/D466-FRONT-Brake-Pads-fits-Ford-Escort-2P-91-93-Aspire-94-97-Kia-Rio-01-02/121686396865?fits=Year:2002|Make:Kia|Model:Rio
 

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BTW, the Kia part number for your front pads is 0K50A-33-28Z

The brake upgrade consists of :
1) Hubs
2) Rotors
3) Calipers
4) Proportioning Valves - to change response of rear brakes
5) More rigid anti-roll bar
6) Assorted brake lines
7) Soft rear pads

I wouldn't go that route, rather go to a brake specialist and have them match something up for you, but if you'd like the Kia part numbers for all those let me know.
 

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Thanks again, I am much obliged and glad to have found THE Kia Elan oracle馃槉馃憤
You're welcome.

Another upgrade that I received the free parts for is a stronger front frame, which I never installed - in Korea there were a few that developed cracks (possibly rough terrain related) and the factory installed the new frame.

I kept a check on mine and would have gone to the major work to install it, but never found any sign of cracks.

Also, the engine mounting is poor - the engine torque rotation is excessive and some add a damper which is what I did, and some just add another rubber engine mount on the front of the engine in place of the silly limiting device attached to the exhaust manifold.
 

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Good to know - I will check out how mine are, probably none of the upgrades ste done. Curious to find out about the noise first, thats pri one now馃
Also the lock/handle for my glovebox is broken, do you have any idea of the kind?
 

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Also the lock/handle for my glovebox is broken, do you have any idea of the kind?

Here's a video of a Lotus one - this is one of the parts that's the same as Lotus.

I'll search for a step by step tutorial that I've seen in the past on one of the Korean sites.
 

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Also, the engine mounting is poor - the engine torque rotation is excessive and some add a damper which is what I did, and some just add another rubber engine mount on the front of the engine in place of the silly limiting device attached to the exhaust manifold.
One more engine mounting photo.
https://m.blog.naver.com/r0kk4ng/20187524958
Scroll down.


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Haha, looks like I have a couple of rebuilts ahead馃槀馃檲
I have a some other poor quality rides so I'm quite familiar to shit happening馃槣
 

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the original brakes were way undersized for this sports car.
I have completely other experiences. This message could be true with view to stock brake discs and pads, but it is a total different story with upgraded quality items. I have used many different sets and the last set from tuneconcept is awesome. The car brakes like a sportscar should be. With stock diameters.

When the calipers are in good nick the front ones are fully up to the job even on the track of course on the b-roads and german autobahns as well. In combination with tailored breaded steel brake lines they brake like they could lift the back of the car...



 

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the original brakes were way undersized for this sports car.
I have completely other experiences. This message could be true with view to stock brake discs and pads, but it is a total different story with upgraded quality items. I have used many different sets and the last set from tuneconcept is awesome. The car brakes like a sportscar should be. With stock diameters.

When the calipers are in good nick the front ones are fully up to the job even on the track of course on the b-roads and german autobahns as well. In combination with tailored breaded steel brake lines they brake like they could lift the back of the car...

The rotor and pad material is what's giving you better braking with stock diameter rotor and caliper.

If I was using my Elan competitively, I would go with something like Brembo.

The factory upgrade that I installed was a major improvement of the original, but would still not consider it for track.
The factory upgrade was not a large rotor diameter change, but a major change in effective friction surface.

I doubt that Kia would have volunteered the free upgrade if the original wasn't considered unsafe.

PS. When I upgraded the front brakes, I drove it a while before installing the new proportioning devices for the rear brakes, and I could tell that it really needed them - you might want to look at new proportioning devices for the rear - you could get adjustable ones.
https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/63022/10002/-1?mrkgcl=1239&mrkgadid=3328190590&adpos=1o2&creative=330699995935&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&jegspromo=nonbrand&gclid=Cj0KCQjws5HlBRDIARIsAOomqA1Og0DlKy9iPsOf77RzO8UROXA28QPUQ7t7-canL_bi0r-LstotwSMaAooxEALw_wcB
 

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The factory upgrade that I installed was a major improvement of the original
I will believe this at once. The first time in the morning, in wet conditions and braking... I will never forget. It happened zero and the junction appeared continously... :eek: I cant remember though if I needed new undies... but wouldn麓t take me wonder :innocent:
 
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