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I have a 2004 Spectra, 2.0L (engine burned up). Which years engines are compatible? I am looking at a 2008 to replace it.
 

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You need to check the VIN plate for the date of manufactor as there is a 2004 and a 2004.5 ... The 2004.5 can use 2004.5~2009 engine. The 2004 uses the earlier engines.
The 2004 is an "Alpha" version.
The 2004.5 and up has VVT (variable valve timing) and is a "Beta" version.
Also engine numbers are on the front of the engine just right of center. (under the plastic top cover)
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btw...
Check ebay and car-part.com for prices and availability.
2004.5 and up engines are plentiful and reasonably inexpensive (under $400~500 for one with under 40k miles)
 

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Hi Dave, the plate says manufactured 04/2004. Does that indicate it is the earlier version and therefore I would NOT be able to use the 2008 engine?
 

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I believe that is an earlier model Spectra... and the ECM won't know how to handle the engine.

car-part.com shows a 1.8L (earlier) and a 2.0L (later) engine...
Check this capture and look at VIN#
1.8L (4 cyl, DOHC, VIN "B", 5th digit)
2.0L (4 cyl, DOHC, VIN "E", 5th digit), AT, Calif emis (VIN "2", 8th digit)
2.0L (4 cyl, DOHC, VIN "E", 5th digit), AT, Fed & Canada emis (VIN "1", 8th digit)
2.0L (4 cyl, DOHC, VIN "E", 5th digit), MT (VIN "1", 8th digit)
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Yes this is the:


2.0L (4 cyl, DOHC, VIN "E", 5th digit), AT, Calif emis (VIN "2", 8th digit)

But my car was mfg. 4/2004. I can't seem to find anything that shows 2004.5, everything is just 2004.
 

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Also, it appears from the VIN#s that here in CA the only 2.0 engine they used in 2004 was the same as the 2008 engine.
 

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Congratulations!
You have a 2004.5~2009 engine confirmed with the fifth digit being either an "E" or a "2".
Yours is probably a "2" unless your car came from California and has their emissions standards.
The good part is the engine and tranny are in plentiful supply and can be gotten for very reasonable prices... See what kind of a deal they are by comparing similar Toyota/Mazda/Nissan engines... This engine CAN go 300k if taken care of. (replace the timing belt EVERY 5yrs or 60k miles).
Keep us posted on your progress...
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I "see" you are in California (Riverside IP)
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Thanks Dave, going to pick up an engine at a nearby salvage yard this morning.
2008, 2.0 for $600. Claims to have 17,000 miles...we'll see...
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Do I need any special tools to align the engine to the trans when installing the engine?
I know I've used these in the past on other vehicles.
 

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Hi again Jim..
I got you this far from my research and past knowledge...
You are serious about what you are doing (some are not) so the next step is to get you on... kiatechinfo.com and do it properly...Here's a cut/paste on how...

Just go to "kiatechinfo.com",
register, and all the info you need is right there.
You need to be running
Microsoft Windows (XP,Vista,7) and
Microsoft IE (Internet Explorer 8 or higher).
You also need to download and install a free "plug-in or app" called Adobe SVG
(Scaled Vector Graphics). There is a link to this software on their site.
and a valid email address to send the password to..
This is the only known good way to get onto this site..

There is a moderate learning curve as things aren't always where you would think they should be...but a little looking gets everything you could possibly need.
End Cut/Paste..

They should have all the info you need on engine/transmission replacement and proper specialized tools to do the job...

This may have sounded like I am dumping you...but...that's not the case...Just more and better info straight from KIA (USA).

Do keep us posted! You will help others immensely!
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btw...
Manual and automatics are the same engine..some difference with bolt ons and ECM...
just move from old engine.
So don't let that scare you... You'll find more with automatics.
$600 for one with 16k is very good for being in California (pollution add ons).
My son was looking for a an engine for a Mazda6 4cyl (2004) and they wanted >$2000 for one with 90k miles on it!
If you can take pictures and document "problems" you may come across..
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will I need any special tools to align the engine/trans when installing the engine? I've had to do this for other vehicles in the past...
 

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I believe with a little work the engine can separate from the tranny and come up and out through the top..Other posters should pitch in with comments and ideas.
The kiatechinfo site should have information on needed tools (jigs)..
I haven't "pulled" an engine on a Spectra (Yet!) but have on my old Fords and Chryslers so I'm not positive on the above...
I ask questions also...Just asked about fitting an oil pressure gauge in my Spectra and the required "plumbing" changes needed..
We help each other here. :)
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u dont need a special tool to line the engine and trans up in the bay. once its in the bay and mounted it should not go anywhere.
 
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