Also about the fords saying 5K mile intervales is a crock of crap. I just looked in my mustangs manual, it states oil changes every 3K miles. Hmmm where you getting your info??
The mm act is for modifications done to a car, not maintence.ICellKiaz brought in the comment about Ford and the 5 & 10K oil changes, which is true. Per the rebuttal of his 02 Mustang not allowing this, this is not an apples to apples comparison. IcellKiaz was referring to, I’m sure he’ll correct me if I’m wrong, present day and concerning the myth of 3K filter changes, not something of older technology per 3K oil changes. Also, ICellKiaz did not say “every” Ford but in the past couple of years it includes the majority of cars and several light duty trucks.
I briefly mentioned Honda and their new oil filter routine. I know I’ll be called a liar but recently several of their units now call for an oil filter change at every second oil change or every 10K miles.
I was going to get into warranty concerns regarding extended oil changes. A little patience and all would have been handled but my schedule is now too tight to elaborate.
US residents can read the magneson-moss act of 1975. Send me PMs or E-mails if there are any questions & I’ll address them after X-mas or early Jan.
There’s more than one service manager in my area that ended walking away with his tail between his legs when all I did was mention the words, Magneson Moss. It's a very powerful tool.
Im gald you work at kia. Cause not every dealer is the same.. Call berlin city car center in williston vermont and ask them for yourself if you don't beleive me. Ill get you the number if youd like!1fastkia,
I'm not even going to attempt to refute anything you said because it is just that unfounded. Let me give you a idea, I WORK FOR KIA and I know what is and is not covered by warranty. I also have a background in Mechanical and Petroleum engineering. The only reason I bought a Kia was the ability to get replacement parts for next to nothing and the fact that I don't want to rack up miles on my nicer cars. I might know a thing or two. I don't need to hear about your theorys that would violate Federal Law.
What do you mean by that first sentence? Your saying you don't have to go by the manual for your service intervales? Yes you do. Its made by the manufacturer. It says point blank there if you dont follow these recomendations it will void the warrinty. A kia worker like yourself can get by without following it cause you work there. Easy isnt it. But for the rest of the people here, I suggest you do change it every 3K. Unless this Icellkias guy is your service guy of course.A manufacturer can not void your warranty for adhering to the service guidelines in the manual. If you let them get away with it, that means you are gullible and they are crooks. Do you honestly believe everything a DEALER tells you? They want someone to come in every 3,000 miles so that they can waste that person's money, time, and non-renewable natural resources while they laugh all the way to the bank. Seriously, think about it for a second and you might see a common denominator. They make statements that make their selves money...
So again. It's your time and money. But I got a better idea. Next time you feel compelled to change your oil out prematurely, call me, and instead we can take your $20 and flush it down the toilet together. The result is similar, but instead we will have some sort of entertainment for our $20 watching it swirl down instead of giving it to a liar that just wants your money. The car is fine either way.
You are correct, not every Kia dealer is the same. So you should find a new one and your buddy too.
If you are indeed a driver in a "severe service" application, that's fine. But you can't blanket statement an entire region. What about the guy that stores his car for the winter? What about someone that spent the winter in Florida and simply came back home near 7,500 miles. Will their warranty be voided if they weren't severe service qualified?
The service guys don't follow you around. They don't know anything you don't tell them. So if you are weak and can't handle the pressure of some guy making $9.00/hr, go ahead and be silly. But today's lubricants can more than handle 3,000 miles between changes with a few exceptions. Look up the requirements for an SL/SM rated motor oil and then tell me you couldn't go longer.
Welcome:00000732: I am glad that you are here. We may not agree entirely but the discussions should become more interesting.Oil breaks down over time just as it does at high heat. I would not drive the car on oil that has sit for more than 6 months, especially if it is a high performance car. But thats just me.