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I never see a problem about auto trans on this site--are the sportage trans that good--looking in other forums they all seem to have auto trans breaking down..
 

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Extremely stout if properly maintained. When Sportages were raced in BAJA and Dakar, they used the automatic. Only thing they had to do was keep an eye on trans oil temp because most of the time they were running in 1st gear at 7000 engine rpms!!!
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Never a problem till now, and my Sportage has got about 102,000 miles on its odometer, although I think it indicates about 10% more than actual mileage.

I replaced twice fluid and filter.

The fluid cooler is at a rather exposed position, although protected by a shield, indeed I badly bent it, and the shield, while going off road. Once I found how to see the A/T fluid temperature on my OBD II scanner, but I could not find that option any more now that I should check if the fluid cooler works still enough good.
 

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Well, I'm at 214,000 miles with zero problems with the trans. I still tow with it, I dont drive slow, and I've been know to visit the redline fairly often. I installed a Hayden 4 pass trans cooler at 210,000 for my 1500 mile trip towing my camper. It's truly an amazing transmission!

The very worst it does is it hunts for a gear between 2 and 3 when its hot and grumpy in traffic, but usually only lasts for a couple of seconds...
 

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Trouble with my tranny !

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I have a 02 kia sportage 4x4 and the auto tranny started to slip. I drained the tranny fluid and added the recommended amount of new fluid. Now the tranny slips even worse then before ??
I double checked for leaks and to make sure I added the correct amount of fluid, Any auto tranny advice would be Greatly appreciated !!

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Before you drained the old fluid, did you check the level? Sounds to me like it was ran with low fluid level for a while.

I did that on a Dodge I had, bought it with low fluid, changed the fluid and the thing slipped like crazy.

If you catch it before it's too late, the repair could be fairly cheap.
 

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Ihave a 1997 sportage auto that won`t go into top gear untill it has done at least 5ks and warmed up and the it changes normally it has done 180,000ks any ideas

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My 1997 sportage auto won`t go into 4th gear untill it has done at least 5 ks then it changes normally any answers
 

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That is normal. The the ECU locks out overdrive untill the engine is warm it is designed to help the engine warm up quicker in cold weather. A cold engine causes more pollutants.
 

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Hi
I have a 02 kia sportage 4x4 and the auto tranny started to slip. I drained the tranny fluid and added the recommended amount of new fluid. Now the tranny slips even worse then before ??
I double checked for leaks and to make sure I added the correct amount of fluid, Any auto tranny advice would be Greatly appreciated !!

Thanks
I don't drive a sportage, but quite familiar with slipping trannys'. When changing the tran oil, many mistakenly drain the oil and refill. Huge no no.

The new atx oil just mixes in with debris left behind from the old oil hence - bigger problems and more slips. Always always get the guy who is changing the oil to perform a pressure drain. This forces all the old oil out AND debris. This is true for many specific tranny designs - but since the average joe has no clue of what type of tranny they have, theres no harm if done. While you're at it INSTALL an auxiliary oil cooler! Its a Cheap add on for tons of worry free driving and toeing.

Good luck in the rebuild.
 

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I don't drive a sportage, but quite familiar with slipping trannys'. When changing the tran oil, many mistakenly drain the oil and refill. Huge no no.

The new atx oil just mixes in with debris left behind from the old oil hence - bigger problems and more slips. Always always get the guy who is changing the oil to perform a pressure drain. This forces all the old oil out AND debris. This is true for many specific tranny designs - but since the average joe has no clue of what type of tranny they have, theres no harm if done. While you're at it INSTALL an auxiliary oil cooler! Its a Cheap add on for tons of worry free driving and toeing.

Good luck in the rebuild.
Is there a method for the average joe to do a pressure drain? I'm thinking of changing my tranny fluid & filter since I don't know when it was done last (if ever).
 

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Something you'd normally do at the shop. They would have the all the equipment needed etc. I suppose you could try it yourself if you're so inclined, but the headache is not worth it if you mess up....

I have a step by step presurized drain procedure (PDF) somewhere. I'll post it once I locate it and then you're on your own.

I haven't looked but im sure google / tube might have a 'how to'.
 

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I can't locate the PDF file (it was old) but I did find some old notes on what the procedure was all about.

"Automatic transmission (A/T) oil cooler/lines must be power flushed completely to ensure no future or repeat A/T failure. Any ATF restrictions at any inlet could cause debris and metal particles to build up and remain when changing ATF...."
The restriction is further worsened over time as more debris build up...

"Power flushing will remove any restrictions by BACK FLUSHING the lines followed by FORWARD FLUSHING the lines/cooler..."

This may not be applicable to all trannys but nonetheless makes sense as to a possible cause(s) and performing a power flush in both directions would ensure a cleaner A/T servicing.
 

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You might want to think twice about doing this to an older auto. Older transmissions can FAIL after doing a reverse power flush because all those little bits and pieces of crap may end up pushed back into the valve body or an actuator. I wouldn't do it and any good transmission shop will warn you about this possibility first.

The problem is that when you drain the pan roughly half the fluid stays behind in the torque convertor.

For an older transmission I suggest either changing the oil, driving it for a couple of days and changing it again. Then do one change annually or every two years or so and it will stay clean. If the oil still goes dirty / smells burned quickly, then your transmission probably needs a rebuild anyway.

OR (I accept no responsibility for any damages resulting from this procedure)

If you are determined to get all the old oil out, disconnect the lines to the oil cooler in the radiator, get someone to momentarily start the engine to determine which one is the line in and which one is the return. Re-connect the return and extend the line in, into a bucket with some clear PVC tube.

Drain and refill the transmission, start the car, and let it idle, when the oil going into the bucket shows signs of running out, stop the car immediately, and tip the same volume of clean oil back into the transmission again. NEVER let it run dry, or you will damage the trransmision pump. Repeat the process until the oil coming out the tube is clean and red like new fluid. (will probably take about 10 litres)

Reconnect the tube to the radiator cooler and top up the transmission, and check the level.

Kia used Aisin transmissions in these cars, similar to the ones used by Toyota in their Landcruisers and pickups. They are strong and reliable units, looked after they will last a long time.
 

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Actually, those instructions came right out of a TSB for an older transmission. The concern was pertaining to a repeat A/T failure and the procedure could possibly cure the faults. Kia techs are clueless on trannys and so only a qualified transmission specialist would be able to discern whether the power flush method would be warranted.

As for the power flush itself, I am not sure if the forward then backward flush was to be done in a specific controlled manner that prevented debris clogging up others areas. Either way, the formula made sense when everything else failed.

Again, let the experts flush the ATF and if you fall into repeated A/T failures, bring up the power flush procedure.
 
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