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I have now done 49k and my front tyres are due for replacement. As I have an Ecodynamics it is currently fitted with Michelin Energy Saver 2 which will cost about 100ukp each to replace. With such high mileage (50k in 17 months) I am keen to maximize MPG.

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I have now done 49k and my front tyres are due for replacement. As I have an Ecodynamics it is currently fitted with Michelin Energy Saver 2
49K. Surely not the first set? The Michelins come in for criticism about cabin noise & grip. On top of economy there is the lifetime cost of the tyres to consider. You might be better off sticking with them.

I have some Bridgestones presently. No difference in economy noticeable on the trend line of my fuel spreadsheet (but I wouldn't expect any). Much nicer tyres. Except the wear suggests that lifetime cost is nearly double the Michelins.
 

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I have been running Michelin XM1+ (Energy Saver) on our Mazda 6 and found an improvement of about 3 MPG for highway running, compared to original Bridgestone. Not much improvement around town. 60,000 km life (estimated) for a set of 4 tyres, but getting a bit noisy as they wear.

Recently looked at replacing with Michelin's latest offering (XM2), but they seemed a bit pricey ($185 ea.), so I went with a pair of Yokohama A Drive ($140 ea.) on the front. I have had good results from Yokohama in the past. Not too worried about economy, as this is a city car now.
 

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Spencer, seems you've answered your own question there.
The Michelins are indeed a tad expensive, but the mileage you've had out of them is fab against expected life of others let alone cheaper tyres. Add to that the economy factor and it should be simples.

Price wise, worth checking www.blackcircles.com as they're generally cheapest around.
Energy savers for my 16" wheels are £85ea fitted, Michelin Primacy are £81.85.

Ace: I've done 23k on my original set or Energy Savers, fronts still have plenty of tread remaining & rears seem barely touched!
 

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I've only done 10,500 on my Michelin (Energy Savers) which were fitted as standard when the car was delivered. So, it's to early yet for me to comment on economy etc. However, I would say that tyre road noise is high at over 60mph and this will certainly be a factor for me to consider when the time comes for replacements.
 

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I had to replace my fronts about a month after I bought the car (maybe 12/13months ago? and I replaced the mich's with "Pirelli P6000", I am shocked to say that the P's are now at 3mm whilst the set of Mich's on the rear (which were previously at about 6mm!) are currently sat at around 5mm left.

I have used about 80% of my new tryre in the period that my Mich's have used 20%

I wish I could pin it on the way I drive it, but if I think hard, I have never driven it constantly hard to shred them, and given I tend to get over 400 miles out of the tank (petrol) I couldnt even say I am thrashing them...

I know which tyres I will be replacing with when it comes to their removal...
 

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I know it's rather obvious, but it must be remembered that front tyres will always wear quicker than the rear ones due to steering, more strain on braking and being the source of drive power. Although a difference of 80% is far to much, 50% would be a more expected result.
 

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Yes, the 60,000km estimate for the Michelin tyre life comes from 40,000km on the front and 80,000 on the back. This still leaves 2-3mm tread remaining, with the best ones kept for the spare.
 

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Looks like Mich 2 then. I will probably get them from the main dealer as they offer to equal any Internet quote. They have honoured this before.

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Ace: I've done 23k on my original set or Energy Savers, fronts still have plenty of tread remaining & rears seem barely touched!
Similar here. By comparison the Bridgestones are down to 3.5-4mm after 10K so are on course for just 13K. I might have go back to Michelin if I can steel myself to accept the noise.

The trouble is there is so little information. Tyres have a treadwear indicator for the USA market; the Michelins are 400 and the Bridgestones 320, so the different result is not unexpected. Unfortunately it's not easy to find this number from literature before buying so might have to be a matter of going round a car park and peering intently (and weirdly?) at the tyres on other cars.

The only thing I really have to go on is that on a petrol Primera, Avons were undoubtedly the quietest compared to Conti and Pirelli and did 25K at the front. The Avons also had a wonderfully controllable breakaway character. (Although I guess this no longer matters with ESP.) Time to revisit?
 

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Get the round ones...
 

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Just had third set of fronts fitted. Michelins lasted 16000 miles then had Semperits (£140 inc vat) which did just over 12000.
Now got toyo's at a cost of £235 inc vat and everything else.
Lets see how long these last.
 

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Just had third set of fronts fitted. Michelins lasted 16000 miles then had Semperits (£140 inc vat) which did just over 12000.
Now got toyo's at a cost of £235 inc vat and everything else.
Lets see how long these last.
I am amazed. I have got 49k out of my 1st set and they have 2-3mm left on the front
I will change them at the end of next Mont.

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Ace, do you recall what model of the Avons you used, I would be quite happy to give them a crack and see how well they handle...
They were the ZV3 with an 88H rating. For the Ceed they would have to be ZV5 to get the 91V.

As a word of caution about tyres, new tyres are always quieter than old ones. I notice on tyre review sites a lot of people give wax lyrical about how much better their new BrandX tyres are over their old BrandY. Naturally my second lot of ZV3s were better than the first lot... but I was happy enough with end of life behaviour to do a repeat buy. The new Bridgestones were better than the old Michelins unsurprisingly so it's difficult to make like for like comparison. Have the Bridgestones gone "off" as much as the Michelins? I don't think so. Certainly not for steering and braking.

Incidentally, Avon tyres are no longer part of Avon plc. They are a subsidiary of Cooper Tires so these might be the same item Cooper Zeon CS6 205/55 R16 91V - mytyres.co.uk
 

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We discussed tyres on this forum previously.
http://www.kia-forums.com/kia-ceed-forum/68999-what-tyres.html

Most of what was said then probably still holds good.

At 23000 miles I have the original Michelins on the front, which were moved from the rear at about 15000 miles. The Conti SportContact 3's that I then put on the rear are showing very little signs of wear, but are so much quieter than the Michelins. (which I hope wear out soon, but I think that traction control is thwarting me)

It's probably worth considering Hankooks as Kia are now putting them on the New 2012 cee'd and the Optima.
 

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It's probably worth considering Hankooks as Kia are now putting them on the New 2012 cee'd and the Optima.
Only because they probably got a better deal with Hankook than they could with Michelin! Or the contract to supply from Michelin has expired! ;)
 

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My 2 year old Pro Cee'd did 19,300 miles on original front Michelin and just replaced it with a Goodyear the other front was replaced by a Pirrelli 6 months ago when punctured,I was shocked to find the tyre worn out after only 19k miles!!
 

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The way I see it the choice basically is.....

1. If you want high mileage get a hard rubber tyre.
2. If you want maximum road grip get soft rubber.

Unfortunately all tyres fit somewhere on a scale between these two extremes, never both.
 
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