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No more Kia car in my life and no more foreign car only american cars or truck. Please im asking everydody to do that .:mad: :mad:
 

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Ya know what I wish you the best of luck getting everyone to swtich over. Just because you had bad luck with your kia doesnt mean everyone else will have bad luck with theirs. I havnt had any issues with mine. Out of all of the vehicle manufactures out there there is always going to be a lemon in every bunch.
 

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Well said Spec SX, no one wants any body to have 'bad luck' with their cars, but to try to suggest that everybody gets rid of their cars and switch to something else is total fantasy.

The Kia Cee'd is by far the best car I have had, I have had Datsuns, Nissans, VW's, Fords, Vauxhalls, Morris (going back a bit) & Renaults.

Can I join Harrisking's world???
 

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Don't wish anyone bad luck with their car, now with that being said I snuck over to a couple of U.S. car forums & guess what--there's trouble in river city there to. I've had my KIA for awhile now-no trouble-and so far one of the best cars for the money I've ever had. Guess I just don't expect enough. Anyway I'm more than satisfied, & my wife loves the car--gotta keep mama happy.:) :) :) :)
 

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American cars (or Mexican/Canadian-made cars, since that is where alot of "American" cars are made now) have some of the worst quality issues out of any country's cars....

After owning a Ford Taurus that had over 3,000 dollars worth of repairs within a 1-year period (alternator went out, oil leaked, power-steering was kooky, headlight issues, gearbox issues, etc) even though the car had less than 30,000 miles on it, I will never own another American car again unless I get a steal on a new one.

And it isn't just me. Nearly everyone I know that has an American car has problems with theirs.

I will always buy Euro or Asian from now on. Better quality, better price, better value.

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I too had a Ford Taurus, it was a 1996 and a POS, it use to eat alternators and one of the pulleys for the cerpentine belt kept coming off, it only had 82,000 miles on it. The interior was cheaply made and falling apart, the transmission was another downfall. I'd never go back to owning an American automobile. My next automobile was a 2002 Optima, I got over 100,000 out of it, before I traded it for my current 2004 Optima. I'm sticking with Hyundai/Kia products.
 

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Optima said:
I too had a Ford Taurus, it was a 1996 and a POS, it use to eat alternators and one of the pulleys for the cerpentine belt kept coming off, it only had 82,000 miles on it. The interior was cheaply made and falling apart, the transmission was another downfall. I'd never go back to owning an American automobile. My next automobile was a 2002 Optima, I got over 100,000 out of it, before I traded it for my current 2004 Optima. I'm sticking with Hyundai/Kia products.
Wow... sounds just like my old Taurus! It had the alternator go out in it, and the cloth inside the roof area started dry-rotting and falling off even though it was kept in the dry all the time! My transmission also had big lurches in it (would nearly knock you senseless) every time it down-shifted.

I'm like you..... Kia/Hyundai FTW!!! (That's "For The Win" for those of you who aren't PC-talk savvy)

Oh yeah... and most Japanese cars are well made as well.... I would looooove to have a Subi. Easily the most reliable cars on the road. My sister had one with over 200,000 miles on it when she bought it! And she put another 60,000 on it before she sold it! And the only problem she ever had with it was that she wore the brake pads out twice in its lifetime and had to get a new battery because the battery in it was over 12 years old and was just starting to crap out! We still see the people who bought it driving around town in it.... that car has to have over 300,000 miles on it by now!!!!!!!:eek:

My grandmother has a Subi, my friend's mom has a Subi, and I know a few other people with Subi's. Everyone I know has no complaints with theirs and loves them to pieces...

Oh... how I would love to have one of the new Legacy GT's.....:eek:

OK... enough ranting... so yeah.... Jap/Korean cars FTW!!!!!11!!1one!1!
 

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Tum...love subi's. I had an 85 wagon traded at 175k, an 86 XT parted out at 150k, and an 85 XT Turbo that I got with 225K (for free!) and sadly sent to the graveyard at 295k.

The engines run FOREVER, but the bodies suck. :)
 

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Tum...love subi's. I had an 85 wagon traded at 175k, an 86 XT parted out at 150k, and an 85 XT Turbo that I got with 225K (for free!) and sadly sent to the graveyard at 295k.

The engines run FOREVER, but the bodies suck. :)
The bodies don't suck at all..... How would your body hold up if it had run over 100,000 miles?!?:p

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I loved my subies, but I have to disagree with you on the bodies. The sheet metal is even thinner than Kia uses. Every subie I owned rusted around the wheel wells and the bottom of the doors. My dad has a '99 Outback that has the same issue...the engine runs like a clock after 170K, but the body is going.
 

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Well all in all we all agree on one thing, we all LOVE our KIAS! I for one am glad that I own one and have so for the most part. The only other car that I would trade up for is the Hyundai Azera. NEWayz, just wanted to throw that out there. ;)
 

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The only other car I would trade-in for would be a BMW 318ti (a friend of mine had one) or a Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX

Man... what an awesome car.....

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i had a 1993 ford taurus SHO!! it had 175,000 miles on it and it was all good for the time i had it!!

(but it comes with a 220hp YAMAHA made V6 with a 7,800 rpm rev limit and a 5 speed manual made by either yamaha or mazda....so it wasnt all usa parts hahas hell every thing was JDM except the body! haha )

im getting another one here soon too im thinkin by next year

but hey look it up

FORD TAURUS SHO!!

love the cars!


anywho

i love my kia...and i would take it over all the other cars in its class anyday...except if i had a chance at a ralliart galant cuz im a mitsubishi lover as well

but yeah you got a bad one oh well

no one else is gonna change for you just like i wouldnt expect you to do the same for me.


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rep it....
 

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I allways wanted a Ford Taurus SHO... awesome cars... and way faster than stock ones...

Also, my car wasn't all bad. It was only in the shop for a few days total and it never really cost much. Also... it was an '87... so it was pretty old and it was about average fro an American made car from its time.

- Tum
 

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I respect you guys for loving your KIAs, but as soon as I can I'm gonna dump mine. I'm tired of all of its problems. I need something more reliable.
 

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I respect everyone decision to own a Kia. I have 2...one of them is what I call an excellent car!!! the other one is a total mess....

mixed results but same brand...

What I have clear now is that the quality of the cars from the past is not the quality from today´s cars.
My father owns a Toyota 1984 van and is reliable and powerful as the same day he got it from the toyota dealer here in El Salvador.
My mother owned a volkswagen beatle 1972 for more than 20 years and no problems at all... now she has a mitsubishi lancer 2004 and no problems with it.

I think these days japanese cars are better made than korean ones.
When I think in my problem for a moment I realize that my old kia has a mazda B5 engine and maybe this is the reason for being
so reliable...
 

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At this point I´d like to know something... why updates need to be made to the ECU? Because I do know that kia makes technical service bulletins to be made by their dealers, many of them are warranty related and others are major upgrades to the ECU. So how are this updates processed?
I´ll tell you a friend´s experience he had recently with his Kia Pregio van... it comes to my mind right now, this is part of what I can remember from the conversation we had:
"I bougth this car new but never wanted to took the maintenance with the kia dealer instead I made the maintenance by myself
I remember old cars didn´t needed to reprogram ECU or load updates...
if you buy a car you buy a finished product and as a finished product it shouldn´t need anything else to work properly....then why do modern cars need updates?"

One good day his brakes failed and had an accident with 14 kids in the van (thanks God no one was hurt)
why the brakes failed? because he hadn´t took his Kia to the dealer and as a result none of the updates for the van had been made...he tought he didn´t need any updates just the normal maintenance he had followed in his preferred shop. Kia dealer was not in touch with him anymore since the day he bought his van nor they communicate with him to offer updates.

Why need updates? what happens when I can´t get access to them? is not a finished product supposed to work flawlessly?
 

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lorolia,

The ECU cannot be programmed without taking it out of the car and opening it up to change the E-Prom. Please post an example of this happening.

It is unfair to place blame on KIA for your friends vehicles brakes failing, especially since he'd never taken it to the dealer for service. How do we know the expertise of the service shop he used is up to standard?

Vehicle manufacturers issue a number of notices, such as recall, and some are merely service notifications. In the case of a service notification they would not contact all owners, but will impliment the requirements at the next due service.

Do you know of any vehicle manufacturer that does not use updates? - guess you don't.

It all well to gripe about KIA, but keep it fair and above board.
 
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