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Appreciated Fellows,

My Best Friend is about to purchase a 2012 Sorento from USA, so it is USDM (United States Domestic Market) Specs = Gasoline engine; Not the common LADM (Latin American Domestic Market) Specs = Diesel that we have here.

As far as I know, it has an in-line, four cylinder 2.4L GDi Gasoline Engine @ 175 Hp, front wheel drive and an Automatic Transmission; the car has a small hit on the Rear bumper - passenger side, which also bent a little the rear panel, but it has a "Run & Drive" title and around 60,000 miles on the odometer.

Questions:

What shall I look on that Car, to advice better my friend, prior to the Purchase?

Are there any especial items that I might care / pay extra attention?

What are the Strong and Weak parts on these Sorentos?

Please let me know your Recommendations, such as SAE engine oil to be used on our warm, caribbean climate; also any especial suggestion, advice, idea, etc... will be Welcome.

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The 2012 Sorento is FWD only and has a 2.4L GDi in-line 4 cylinder's engine.

Please, let me Know which *Exactly* is the Kia's Recommended Motor Oil,

Also which one is *Exactly* the Oil Filter for that Engine.

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Okay, the Sorento is great all around, but a bit underpowered with the 2.4L engine. Take it for a ride with 2 heavy people, or 4. Then turn on the A/C full (you can leave the fan on low if it's too cold. Then head for a steep uphill. Then keep in mind if it would have enough power with a full tank of gas, and some luggage inside, plus maybe a roof carrier as well. Or, if you ever want to consider towing a boat, or a small trailer?

If it has enough power for you then, you'll be fine! If not move on to a V6

Remember this is not a Turbo 4cyl. it's just G.D.I. (Gas Direct Injection). By the way the G.D.I. Sorento engine has 191hp! not 175hp, that's in the Sportage/Tucson twins that don't have G.D.I.

Good Luck!

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Thank you for your kind reply and the information.

However, this questions remains unanswered:

The 2012 Sorento is FWD only and has a 2.4L GDi in-line 4 cylinder's engine.

Please, let me Know which *Exactly* is the Kia's Recommended Motor Oil,

Also which one is *Exactly* the Oil Filter for that Engine.

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5W20 is what's called for in the USA. 26300-35503. is the Kia parts # for the oil filter. Kia oil filter is the only one I would use.
 

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Awesome! ... Thank you for the direct Answer. :thumbsup:

So 5W~20 is the Kia's recommended oil viscosity for the in-line 4 cylinders, 2.4L GDi, is that good for Warm climates, as we have here in the Caribbean?

And Oil Filter Nº 26300-35503 is the Right one; tomorrow I'll ask our local Kia Dealer for their price.

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Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm really more an Old-School guy / mechanic, and I've not seen yet, a car that uses / needs a Crush Washer on the Oil Filter; that's new for me.

Please, could someone elaborate further on the Subject?

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So, I did some research and I found that the Drain Bolt, needs a crush washer, which should be Replaced during each oil drain ... :huh: ... That is pretty New and weird for me.

I found this interesting post on another thread, which I will share here, in order to have it handy:

To change the oil in 2011 Sorento with 2.4L engine you will need the following tools:
- Ratchet
- 17mm 6pt socket (avoid using 12pt wrenches or sockets)
- Extension
- Cup type 80mm 15 flute oil filter wrench
- Oil catch pan

Supplies:
- 5qt/5L 5W20 oil
- Hyundai/Kia/Mobis 26300 35503 oil filter
- 14mm aluminum crush washer
- Funnel
- Paper towels or shop rags
- Nitrile gloves
- Light

Procedure:
1. Warm up engine
2. Turn off engine
3. Remove oil filler cap
4. Place catch pan under engine (there is plenty of
space under the car to change the oil without have
to jack it up)
5. Remove oil drain plug at the rear of the oil pan
6. Give the engine 5-10 minutes to completely drain
7. Clean the pan around the drain hole
8. Remove old crush washer from drain plug or pan
- If this is the first time the oil is changed, the crush washer
will probably be stuck on the oil drain plug with paint
9. Replace oil drain plug with a new crush washer (I like to put
a little grease on the washer to help it seal)
10. Loosen the filter with the filter wrench and let drain
11. Lubricate new filter's gasket with oil
12. Remove the old filter
13. Clean oil filter manifold and make sure that the old
oil filter's gasket did not stick to it
14. Fill new filter half full of oil
15. Install new filter, hand tighten
16. Fill the engine with a total of 4.9qts/4.6L oil, do not overfill
17. Clean around oil fill opening and cap
18. Replace oil filler cap
19. Run engine for a couple of minutes, and turn off
20. Wait 5 minutes
21. Check oil level and check for oil leaks

If you buy the gaskets and oil filters in bulk on EBay, the cost is US$5 per filter.

5W20 synthetic oil is less than US$3 on sale, by the case or jug.

Total cost US$20-25.

Notes:
- 5W20 is the recommended weight for all temps. 5W30 caused lifter noise on my engine.
- Read the severe conditions section of your manual. The majority of Kia owners are running under what is defined as severe conditions. Oil change intervals under these conditions is 3,750 miles.
 

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Seems like this:

... 16. Fill the engine with a total of 4.9 qts ...[/U]
Information is not correct, according to this...

if you put 4.9 qts into the engine, your dipstick will exceed the higher mark. high mark is at 4.4 qts
...Post, so please let me know the correct amount of 5W~20 motor oil, to be used in this sorento, which will arrive on a Container, in a cargo vessel that is sailing from USA, the Next Week, and I'll need to do all the repairs and basic maintenance once it is freed by the customs clearance personnel... and I don't want to screw up things; My concern is because I am an old-school car guy, and this newer cars seems to be more delicate, to me.

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Thanks for the information!

So, knowing that this is the proper Oil Filter:



And these are the Proper Crush Washers:



I Went to the Local Kia Dealer and Purchased one of each, see:



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Question:

Somehow I forgot to ask at the Local Kia Dealer, what is the total amount of 5W~20 motor Oil for that 2012 Kia Sorento, it has the 2.4L in-line 4 cylinders, GDi gasoline engine; and as you can read in previous posts of this thread, I found different information regarding the Amount, some people says 4.4 US Quarts, others 4.9 US Quarts...

Could anybody, please let me know the proper amount of motor oil?

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Thank you for your direct answer.

Now, I'll love to find a source to download a .pdf copy,

of the service Manual for the 2012 Kia Sorento 4 cyl. GDi version.
 

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Don't forget the fuel system cleaner "Techron" fuel system cleaner!:)
 

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That "Techron" fuel system cleaner, is expensive here in my Country, and a little hard to find... only a couple of stores sells that; so I have three more Questions:

► The Sorento GDi Really "needs" that additive on a regular basis?

► At how many Miles or Gas Tanks it should be used?

► Is there any other Fuel System Cleaner that might be used instead?

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Loyale, IMO. The maintenance varies on how the vehicle was used. Normal usage/mileage GDI engines requires an additive and that is fuel system cleaner at let's say every 7,500 miles.
 

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So, I did some research and I found that the Drain Bolt, needs a crush washer, which should be Replaced during each oil drain ... :huh: ... That is pretty New and weird for me.

I found this interesting post on another thread, which I will share here, in order to have it handy:
I have never changed the crush washer on mine and I've never had a problem on any of my cars that have that kind of setup. It's just one more thing for the dealer to make money on. Yes it may need to be changed out eventually especially if the drain bolt is tightened too much. With some aftermarket filters like the V6 the crush washer is included.
 

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Thanks.

This question remains unanswered:
I've used Seafoam both as a fuel system cleaner as well as an upper valvetrain cleaner before. I use the spray version when cleaning the upper valvetrain (spray into the TB while someone is keeping the car between 1800 and 2000 RPM. The regular, non spray, one can be used to do that but through a vacuum hose, and honestly, is too much of a PITA to use it that way.

Every year, i put about half a bottle through the gas tank in all my vehicles and depending on other symptoms night clean the valvetrain also. Since this is my first GDI vehicle i might do the spray one more often, maybe every 8 months to prevent and remove buildup from happening on the valves.

The cleaner is required in a GDI engine for 2 reasons, 1. the fuel injectors are directly in the combustion chamber and can get clogged. 2. the valves get any recirculated gases through the PVC system without getting lubricated by incomming fuel so the gases build up on the intake valves causing poor intake of air. The spray one will clean the valves, as well as doing some work all the way through the exhaust, including cleaning some of hte buildup on the fuel injectors, but to really clean the injector properly in a GDI, the best thing to do is to run the cleaner through it. The absolute best thing is to take the injector out and get it proffesionally cleaned using a proper bench setup, but who has the time when pouring in a good quality injector cleaner takes minutes and does the work while you drive.

I've used seafoam in the past to clear partially clogged catalytic converters after a period of bad misfires caused by a bad coil and it does wonders.
 
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