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So I read and article in moneysense that says that Canadian and American EPA estimates are totally different! Canada does not take into account things like outdoor temperatures, using A/C, etc. Actually, here is a good article that explains it:
Canada's fuel efficiency ratings out of sync with U.S. numbers - Canada - CBC News

So I know a bunch of us Canadians were frustrated that we never got close to 4.9/6.8 l/100km (hwy/city), well turns out, there is no chance of that. If you try to get the American stated numbers, you may be pleasantly surprised by your car's fuel efficiency! While I was wishing for 4.9/6.8, I should have really been hoping for 5.9/7.8, which I actually can get! (kia.com states 40/30 mpg, but kia.ca states 58/42 mpg, HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!)

So I guess you can say I have gone from thinking there was something wrong with my particular car (since I couldn't come close to EPA), to now knowing that my car is running just as it should, phewph!
 

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I thought most people already knew this but perhaps not. Also, I believe that Canadian mpg figures use imperial gallons, further inflating the numbers.
 

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It takes a lot of effort to get great numbers.

With a few weeks of learning traffic (when is the biggest congestion time), timing traffic lights (how fast to go from one intersection to another to avoid braking), and anticipating at least 5 cars ahead... I can get my 2004 Elantra (2.0, I4, 5spd with 75k miles) to return as low as 5.9 L/100 km in city driving (13.5 km). On everyday is about 6.2-7.0. A/C on 3/4 brings that up to 7.5.

With heavy foot or in rush I hit 8.0... so here you have your answer.

I would recommend getting something like ScanGaugeII to monitor fuel use. You will be surprised how much you did not know.
 

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So I know a bunch of us Canadians were frustrated that we never got close to 4.9/6.8 l/100km (hwy/city), well turns out, there is no chance of that. If you try to get the American stated numbers, you may be pleasantly surprised by your car's fuel efficiency! While I was wishing for 4.9/6.8, I should have really been hoping for 5.9/7.8, which I actually can get! (kia.com states 40/30 mpg, but kia.ca states 58/42 mpg, HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!)
as Marley said you are comparing imperial gallons to US gallons, not the same size. US = 3.78 litres and Cdn gallon = 4.54L.

30 mpg US = 36 mpg imperial gallon
40 mpg US = 48 mpg imperial gallon

still a difference, but use the US figures converted to metric as to what you can expect on the Canadian models.
30 mpg US = 7.8L/100 km
40 mpg US = 5.9L/100 km
 

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as Marley said you are comparing imperial gallons to US gallons, not the same size. US = 3.78 litres and Cdn gallon = 4.54L.

30 mpg US = 36 mpg imperial gallon
40 mpg US = 48 mpg imperial gallon

still a difference, but use the US figures converted to metric as to what you can expect on the Canadian models.
30 mpg US = 7.8L/100 km
40 mpg US = 5.9L/100 km
as mentioned "I should have really been hoping for 5.9/7.8"
 

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I drove my car to Dubai from Saudi Arabia and got a decent 13.1/100km during the 900km drive. The car had not problems whatsoever. Took 2 pitstops because driving in the 47 Degree celcius heat is no fun.

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I drove my car to Dubai from Saudi Arabia and got a decent 13.1/100km during the 900km drive.
13 L/100 km? That is huge fuel consumption for Rio.
Wast it 13 liters per 100 km or 13 km per liter?
 

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13 L/100 km? That is huge fuel consumption for Rio.
Wast it 13 liters per 100 km or 13 km per liter?
I sure hope he meant 13km/L cuz otherwise that mileage is horrible. 13km/L would be about 7.7L/100km or 30.5 mpg(us). Still not very good for highway driving.
 

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here's a comment regarding mileage from a Canadian review I just posted on another thread

"And surprisingly, fuel consumption was most excellent as well; I averaged 6.4 L/100 km over the course of the week with the Rio. Looking back on previous testers, in the 2012 Yaris I averaged 6.7 L/100 km and in the hybrid Prius C I averaged 4.8 L/100 km. The Rio stacks up well against the established competition and offers more features, more comfort, and less noise for a similar price."
 
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