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Possibly the operator is not familiar with the automatic climate control and is outsmarting himself. Wouldn't be the first one on here to do that.
I'd say turn the temp setting to 72 and sync the left and right temps. Make sure its set for dash registers only. Press the 'Auto' button. Assuming the '22 SX has the opening roof, go ahead and open it when first starting off for maybe 5 minutes, but you should close it before getting up to highway speed - its great to run with it on the highway but if you try to open or close it at speed, its a very loud, violent action that I personally avoid. This lets a lot of hot air out and helps cool the interior surfaces a little. if you don't have the opening roof, let down some windows.
By this time you should be feeling cooler air from the registers.
BTW, close the roof shade when parking or at any other time (with the roof closed, of course) that the car has trouble dealing with the heat.
On 'Auto', the system will re-circulate the air in the car which cools the car faster than allowing the hot outside air in. At some point the system will be satisfied and revert to fresh air.
Your intent may have been for good, but this response made me laugh out loud. I've owned twenty new vehicles in less than 30 years. The newer the vehicle, the worse the A/C has operated. I've just never owned a vehicle with such piss-poor A/C performance.

KIA techs say the system is within factory specification. I guess I live with it until I sell it next year. For what it's worth, I visited a Ford lot on my way home from the KIA dealer and test drove a 2021 Ford Explorer that had been sitting in direct sun all day in 95F heat. It took about 10 minutes of driving to bring the interior to the point I had to turn the A/C down. Outsmarting myself, indeed.

Thanks for your input. That ELI5 paired with condescending tone never fails to spark joy. Cheers.
 

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Assuming the '22 SX has the opening roof, go ahead and open it when first starting off for maybe 5 minutes, but you should close it before getting up to highway speed - its great to run with it on the highway but if you try to open or close it at speed, its a very loud, violent action that I personally avoid. This lets a lot of hot air out and helps cool the interior surfaces a little. if you don't have the opening roof, let down some windows.
You can also tilt the roof for good ventilation and much less noise, and that works at highway speeds.
 

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Your intent may have been for good, but this response made me laugh out loud. I've owned twenty new vehicles in less than 30 years. The newer the vehicle, the worse the A/C has operated. I've just never owned a vehicle with such piss-poor A/C performance.
You must live under a dark cloud. My last few vehicles of various makers have all had excellent A/C, it's the older ones from the 60's through the 80's that had the piss-poor A/C. Sometimes there was plenty of cooling, but the many modes and control of the modern A/C is way better IMO. Oh, and my 2020 Kia Sorento has plenty of cooling, even on the recent 95 degree 85% humidity day, it very quickly got the heat under control and the car was comfortable within a few minutes of starting.
 

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You must live under a dark cloud. My last few vehicles of various makers have all had excellent A/C, it's the older ones from the 60's through the 80's that had the piss-poor A/C. Sometimes there was plenty of cooling, but the many modes and control of the modern A/C is way better IMO. Oh, and my 2020 Kia Sorento has plenty of cooling, even on the recent 95 degree 85% humidity day, it very quickly got the heat under control and the car was comfortable within a few minutes of starting.
Definitely something. Sheesh. I am going to try a non-Kia mechanic and see what they say about the system.
 

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You must live under a dark cloud. My last few vehicles of various makers have all had excellent A/C, it's the older ones from the 60's through the 80's that had the piss-poor A/C. Sometimes there was plenty of cooling, but the many modes and control of the modern A/C is way better IMO. Oh, and my 2020 Kia Sorento has plenty of cooling, even on the recent 95 degree 85% humidity day, it very quickly got the heat under control and the car was comfortable within a few minutes of starting.
My 2017 Sportage also has great A/C even after 5 years of ownership. It cools down the car in less than 10 minutes even in the Vegas heat. There must be something wrong with the OP's ride.
 

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I know that our recent 90° and 80+% humidity doesn't quite compare to what's going on out west, but running the AC in my 2020 Sportage at the lowest temp, in auto mode, both sides in synch, for 2 - 3 minutes with a couple of windows down, then closing the windows will freeze you out in less than 15 minutes. It will seriously numb your face, if it's blowing directly at it. I just tried it again today to ensure that this is true.

With that being stated, you really should seek out another garage if you aren't seeing similar results.

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The same with my 2020, it is a mile to the highway from my house and takes a couple of minutes (lights and traffic). Have it set at 72 sync'd and auto. Leave the house with the back windows down for a couple of minutes and the car is comfortable by the time I am at the highway. I have the vents set to blow past me as the air is too cold to blow directly on me.
 

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Definitely something. Sheesh. I am going to try a non-Kia mechanic and see what they say about the system.
I fully agree that you should expect better AC performance than what you are experiencing.

Many dealership techs aren't experienced or suitably trained to handle the complexity of the AC system.

Getting an opinion from a specialist AC shop would be good, but the cost of corrective work should be covered by Kia under warranty.
 

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Today 8/5/21 it was 95* car was sitting outside in the So. Fl. sun. I pulled out of my driveway and 5 houses down the block the car was already cool. I shit on Kia having poor quality parts. The A/C on mine however has always been rock solid.
 

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Not same generation but here is what I do - I roll windows down a tad (1/2-2/3") before parking so internal air isn't much hotter than outside when I get in the car after work. Roll windows down and start car, drive with windows down a block or two, then turn AC on and roll windows back up.
 

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So, things in the Northern Hemisphere are heating up. My 2022 Sportage SX sits in the sun all day and I don't use any window coverings. Yesterday it was about 100F degrees and my car was in the sun for about 6 hours.

My drive home is around 45 minutes mostly highway, and I used remote start 10 minutes before I got to my car. My Sportage literally did not blow cold air until I reached my home. The car ran for 55 minutes with Max A/C in 100F weather in direct sun before the system got cold.

Is this normal? Are my expectations too high?
This shows me that you don't understand the automatic CC system, and you can dub that 'elitism' if you want. All any car AC system can do is drop the ambient air temp about 35-45 degrees. Obviously this is going to take a while to cool off an oven that's been sitting out all day. The thing some owners do not get is you have to go by the temperature that's set on the climate control - not the air temp coming out of the registers. If you have it on 73, for example, it will get there. As it approaches the setting, it is adjusting the blown air temp upward to avoid chilling any occupants. Once it reaches the setting (if you have set a realistic temp, not below 70), you may not feel any cold air, but you won't be hot. This is what its designed to do, and the system is damn good at it.
Now, there have been issues with some aspects of the 3G and 4G AC system, and there is a TSB on it, so maybe if it really is not working right you should take it in.
 

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Finally got a second opinion. The system is malfunctioning due to being about a pound low on refrigerant. First KIA dealer said it was within factory specs. I went to a different KIA dealer and they found it was a pound low. Added the refrigerant and my A/C is working much closer to what I expect out of a new car.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.
 

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Now you need to find out why it was a lb low, and/or what they did to fix it.
 

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Now you need to find out why it was a lb low, and/or what they did to fix it.
They didn't mention any repairs or part replacement. They inspected the system hoses and condenser and didn't see any obvious holes or impacts. My car only has 2k miles on it so they said to go ahead and make another appointment if the A/C performance declines significantly.

We'll see.
 

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One thing ive noticed on mine is if u set the ac to max and just use the window and floor vents, does not cool it off nearly as fast as towards u and feet option. Also ive noticed that jus using 'cool' seems to work quite well. Normally i roll the windows for a few till the motor is at normal operating temp, switch to ac for 20mins or so than jus use the cool option. Works well for me most of the time. We dont get a lot of hot days like there in the states but we do have high humidity.
 

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Finally got a second opinion. The system is malfunctioning due to being about a pound low on refrigerant. First KIA dealer said it was within factory specs. I went to a different KIA dealer and they found it was a pound low. Added the refrigerant and my A/C is working much closer to what I expect out of a new car.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.
The A/C is a closed system. It either has a leak or they didn't fill it correctly at the factory. I would lean on it having a leak. Leaks are usually at joints/connections. Look for the compressor and look at the hose fittings. Follow both hoses and look for signs of oil on all parts you can see. If you find any try spraying soapy water (Big Blu is the best stuff) and look for bubbles. If the leak is in the evap that is covered by a shroud so you won't be able to see that. Most leaks occur at the evap unfortunately. Did they mention if they leak tested it? You should ALWAYS have a leak test when any A/C system is low on refrigerant.
 

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The A/C is a closed system. It either has a leak or they didn't fill it correctly at the factory. I would lean on it having a leak. Leaks are usually at joints/connections. Look for the compressor and look at the hose fittings. Follow both hoses and look for signs of oil on all parts you can see. If you find any try spraying soapy water (Big Blu is the best stuff) and look for bubbles. If the leak is in the evap that is covered by a shroud so you won't be able to see that. Most leaks occur at the evap unfortunately. Did they mention if they leak tested it? You should ALWAYS have a leak test when any A/C system is low on refrigerant.
Based on some of the feedback I contacted the dealer and spoke with the technician. They used a "leak detector" and didn't find any leaks. She mentioned they used the detector both before and after the refill and detected no leaks. She was careful to explain that this does not necessarily mean no leaks, it means that none were detected. She said they test at the compressor, evaporator, condenser and all fittings. If there is a leak at this point it's most likely in one of the lines they cannot readily access. She went on to say that if the system is still leaking refrigerant, the next step is a dye test. As long as the leak is not caused by impact damage (like a rock against the condenser), both the dye test and the repair would be covered under warranty.
 

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KIA techs say the system is within factory specification. I guess I live with it until I sell it next year. For what it's worth, I visited a Ford lot on my way home from the KIA dealer and test drove a 2021 Ford Explorer that had been sitting in direct sun all day in 95F heat. It took about 10 minutes of driving to bring the interior to the point I had to turn the A/C down. Outsmarting myself, indeed.
This isn't areally a fair comparison. The Explorer will have significantly more cooling "capacity" than the Kia. Bigger condensers, bigger cooling coils in the AC. The more BTU capacity the condensers can exchange the better the systems will work. This is why trucks and large SUV's work so well. They simply have more area to exchange the heat. This is also why hi-volume radiators with more tubing rows work so well.

You must live under a dark cloud. My last few vehicles of various makers have all had excellent A/C, it's the older ones from the 60's through the 80's that had the piss-poor A/C. Sometimes there was plenty of cooling, but the many modes and control of the modern A/C is way better IMO. Oh, and my 2020 Kia Sorento has plenty of cooling, even on the recent 95 degree 85% humidity day, it very quickly got the heat under control and the car was comfortable within a few minutes of starting.
My dad had a 94 Silverado that would practically blow snow. The recirc on that system sounded like a jet engine and blew so hard it would ripple the fabric on your shirts when set to the dash vents.
 

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My previous vehicle, a Ford Focus would absolutely freeze me out in 10 minutes. Not sure what you’re trying to refute. It’s acceptable for a new car to have poor A/C performance?
 
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