After a head gasket, now I need a whole new engine and I’m just 3 days out of my warranty. Anyone have any luck finding a “Crate” Engine or Long Block in a timely manor? I can’t believe this is happening….. is this know for Head Gasket Problems just out of 100,000 miles? I have done all services on time and up to date. This is really maddening.
2016 Sorento Needs 3.3l V6 Engine
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As a counterpoint, you shouldn't ignore the complaints since the frequency and popularity also is a factor. If you take 2016 CR-V's, RAV4's and Sorento's data on CarComplaints, you'll find the 2016 RAV4 having few overall complaints despite selling 352,154 units in 2016, the CR-V at 357,335 and the Sorento trailing with 114,733 sold. (of course, it may not be 1-to-1 since it's likely calendar and not model year)
The CR-V technically has more engine category complaints than the Sorento, but they are primarily labeled "Vibration At Idle". Potentially annoying but not a major problem.
(I'll be a little unfair to the CR-V and include the 2017MY too, high complaint counts for oil dilution - a big concern for 1.5T models and can cause issues but one can still change oil more frequently and is a longer-term concern compared to both 2.4 and 2.0T Theta II engines with their knack for knocking - or seizing unexpectedly.)
The Sorento has a similar amount of engine category complaints, except instead of just vibration, it's "Engine Failure".
If we pop on over to RAV4world or CRVOwnersClub (or others like ClubFrontier, Piloteers, etc.) you'll of course find problems, but you won't find the "it's my turn for engine failure guys!" attitude we have here and I say that's a reflection of the rightfully earned bad rap of HyunKia engineering.
I got curious a while back and went looking to see what the cost/procedure to fix the AWD clutch in something like a Crosstrek, Highlander (gas models), etc. and they just don't seem to have that same level of failure that we've seen here. (could it be programming, engineering, etc?)
forums are mainly for people looking to find solutions to problems. so if all you do is look at forum posts, you'll find mainly posts about problems. very few posts are people saying how much they love their vehcles.
have i had issues with my sorento? yes. But do i love it? also yes. it has so far been the most reliable vehicle i have owned. from my 88 chevy pickup, my 08 dodge caliber, my 11 dodge ram, my 12 sorento and now my 16, the 2 sorentos have had the least issues. while my 2016 had the engine fail, the 2012 had some rust issues, at least my dealer is not saying that i abused my sorento like the dodge dealer did for my dakota. the only time the sorento has ever let me stranded on the side of the road was for the engine knock. all other prior vehicles have let me stranded many more times.
have i had issues with my sorento? yes. But do i love it? also yes. it has so far been the most reliable vehicle i have owned. from my 88 chevy pickup, my 08 dodge caliber, my 11 dodge ram, my 12 sorento and now my 16, the 2 sorentos have had the least issues. while my 2016 had the engine fail, the 2012 had some rust issues, at least my dealer is not saying that i abused my sorento like the dodge dealer did for my dakota. the only time the sorento has ever let me stranded on the side of the road was for the engine knock. all other prior vehicles have let me stranded many more times.
I think it's also a function of your own individual sense of how long a car should last. Many on this forum run their vehicles until they die. I see a lot of engine deaths at over 100K; that doesn't worry me as much as it would if I saw a bunch of engine deaths at 50K.
Except we live in a world where a modern ICE should easily go 200K and I think that has become the expectation. If they are failing at 120-150K, people consider it a premature failure and understandably so.
Especially when the reason is using either wrong head bolts or improperly torquing them at the factory. Would STILL love to know which is the case. I really doubt the problem is the block.
Yeah, 200k in Km is not a lot at all unless you ignore changing the engine oil and maybe transmission. Many oem's say lifetime on tranny fluid but likely get there if you don't tow. I bought both my Sorento's from Kia Dealers and expect them not to be in shit shape. Both were in oem warranty at the time as well. Hence what fails is limited as low mileage and an alternator is not one of them that should or hose rubber leak in an AC line.
I err on better than spec on my OCI which is many times earlier and using full synthetic oil even though not mandated on them both. No reason for wear and tear issues with either engine. The only caveat is whether the GDI design is going to haunt me and you-all. That I have little control over and I am not an additive user nor want to be. I got sucked in when I was you and made me poorer as well did nothing. Actually needed to rebuild that engine in the end.
I err on better than spec on my OCI which is many times earlier and using full synthetic oil even though not mandated on them both. No reason for wear and tear issues with either engine. The only caveat is whether the GDI design is going to haunt me and you-all. That I have little control over and I am not an additive user nor want to be. I got sucked in when I was you and made me poorer as well did nothing. Actually needed to rebuild that engine in the end.
A followup to my earlier post in which I was wondering about keeping our 2016 Sorento. We ultimately went with a new 2023 Sorento with the 2.5l turbo. Seems the word is getting out somewhat about the 3.3l engine issues and the best trade deal we could achieve was with KIA for the 2023 Sorento.
With the 2016 having been our principal source of both local and long distance travel, and our reaching the end of the warranty period (not to mention the reported issues with acquiring a replacement engine), we just bit the bullet. Thus far the 2.5 turbo has performed quite well, but don't they most all when they are new. We'll see how this works out as the miles add up.
With the 2016 having been our principal source of both local and long distance travel, and our reaching the end of the warranty period (not to mention the reported issues with acquiring a replacement engine), we just bit the bullet. Thus far the 2.5 turbo has performed quite well, but don't they most all when they are new. We'll see how this works out as the miles add up.
My 2015 was a Cream Puff when I bought it for my wife and I got myself a 2019 better except for powertrain. the 2015 would leave me still sitting there even with the same engine. LOL I have a few more assisting driver toys so to speak.
Good luck with the Turbo. I hope that new engine has flushing valve injection, since we don't have in my GDI builds. I am wary if its going to bite me big time or not down the road.
Good luck with the Turbo. I hope that new engine has flushing valve injection, since we don't have in my GDI builds. I am wary if its going to bite me big time or not down the road.
Disregard what I said below, I do not believe it's correct....
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I believe the G4KR is designed for rear wheel drive cars like in Genesis.
According to the Kia website, the 2.5L turbo is MPI+GDI and I would guess it is the G4KP. But to be sure you can pop off the engine beauty cover and see if there’s a sticker on the valve cover with the engine code. There’s a sticker on my engines.
Agreed. My parents had the engine fail in their 140K 2010 Camry the other week. Dropped a valve and they limped it to a dealer... They ended up trading it in and buying a 2022 to drive home.
One benefit of buying used is that they have a better warranty with the used one than a new one. If this one has any drivetrain failure the dealer will take care of it.(lifetime drivetrain warranty on used cars at that dealer) Even the techs said if they had bought the 2010 there they would just have replaced the engine under warranty for free. I will say that I am glad they bought used as that means I won't have to be on the hook for fixing their car for them in the future. The tech also said they have replaced a number of Toyota engines under that warranty and that it's more common than you may think.
Had a 2015 Sorento SXL with the 3.3 engine with 75K actual miles that was rigorously taken care of. The car decided not to heat the cabin earlier this year. The problem was a leaky head gasket caused by a "stripped head bolt". Well sir, long blocks were discontinued, none available anywhere, short blocks were on 6 month back order, the fix was to helicoil both heads and the block. $7500 and I had heat again. To repeat, engine was meticulously cared for. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chance..
Oh my my, mine is the same date as yours and plant. Mar 13/14 this is not good if that issue is spanning 2 years unchecked!!!
I am just over 109,000km on it as well. Less I believe in miles.
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Interesting that you both have a car manufactured on the same day. Tripplec, how close is your VIN # to the one posted ? I am also surprised that a car built in March of 2014 would be titled as a 2015. I believe Honda of Canada did their build change date on July 1 of a calendar year. When I hauled parts into the Alliston, Ontario plants, they had a two week shutdown every summer beginning July 1 to make changes to the assembly lines and do maintenance in preparation for the new model year.
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