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2011 Sorento AWD explained

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Late post, but is the awd in the 2013 sorento the same as the 2011?

Also curious is traction control should be turned off when going up a steep
snowy, icy grade? I turn off traction control on my 2005 crv in those conditions up our 1/2 mile mountain driveway and it seems to work. If I leave it on, you can feel the engine being dragged down by the braking.
 
Most stability control systems cut the throttle in addition to pulsing the brakes. Your bogging down is probably due to the lost throttle, not to the braking.
Nice to know technically what is happening thanks. So it makes sense then that I should be switching off the stability control on my 2013 sorento as well in those conditions on a steep icy incline.
 
Steep icy inclines can be really tricky. In *theory* a perfect stability control system should help you up, but in *practice* nearly all of them are WAY too stupid to figure out what to do and just end up cutting throttle and killing your momentum so you never get up the hill. I have never personally had good luck with stability control on icy inclines. The new AWD system in the Hyundai Santa Fe has a function tied in with the stability control that will brake an individual slipping wheel (they erroneously call it torque vectoring). *That* system may be quite helpful moving up an icy incline.

Bit of a non sequitur but I have always found a G80 rear diff in chevy trucks to be very helpful in getting up icy hills. Could just be where I have been, but having a lock across an axle has always seemed more beneficial to me than locking the two axles together on icy hills.

Yeah, in "theory" they all sound amazing lol. Where I live, momentum is very important and killing the run never works. that's why I always turn my SC off in my crv on the steep run. I learned the hard way on the coldest winter day.

We also have a 94 full size chevy blazer that we use to clean snow in winter on our road. It always stays in 4H as we have logging chains on the rear and nothing stops them.
 
klrman, the biggest problem with snowy roads is the poor grip from the OEM tires. Don't expect much from these Kumho KL21s. I've upgraded my winter rubber to Hankook i*cept evo.

Try your climb with the traction control both on and off, and please give us the results. It is likely different from your '05 Honda. By the way, stability control and traction control are different. Traction control cuts power to a spinning wheel, either by a bit of brake and/or a bit less power (engine power cut). Stability control tries to straighten us out in a side skid by braking and/or cutting power to the tires on one side to try to pull us straight. Both are generally a good idea and neither is perfect.

I'm still trying to get a feel for the AWD system in our Sorentos. The magic box is the electrically actuated clutch assembly just forward of the rear differential. I find it hard to believe that the dry clutches are made to slip on demand, and I'm not at all sure about pulsing on and off. I haven't had enough time on steep slippery roads to be able to feel exactly what's happening. You do know that the 4wd button on the dash is speed-related?...it only activates below 15 mph, deactivates at 19, reactivates at 15, or at speeds something like that. Above those speeds we are dependent on the computer to know when to switch into 4WD. (I call AWD a system with a center differential or viscous coupling that allows a speed differential between the front and rear drive shafts. Our cars do not have that. I call cars where the front & rear driveshafts locked together 4WD. This is what our cars do (note that the book explains a possible shudder on dry roads when cornering slowly and 4WD is turned on, a locked 4WD characteristic), unless the clutch assembly modulates somehow, all a mystery. Car makers call AWD or 4WD whatever the company marketing department wants to call it.)

How does your KLR do on that icy hill? Have you got studs for it? It can be helpful for Kia answers if you put a bit more info into your profile...year & model car, and at least the country you're in.
Hi there KLS. I updated my profile and noticed we're neighbours and both have Vstroms lol. I have studded Hankooks on my CRV and they always do the job year after year in Winter around here.

I just purchased the Sorento in Vegas last week and drove it back to BC. Passed BC inspection yesterday, drove it home up my hill and will store it in my warm garage for the Winter. Too shiny and good looking to abuse it for the first Winter :D Not much snow on our hill yet, but very icy and with the stock tires it ran up the mountain with ease and TS was not turned off so that was a bonus.

While it's parked for the season, I want to get to the bottom of the transmission "clunk" that happened twice on the way back to canada. Both times were when it was shifting from 1st to second moving slowly. I did noticed that an ecm upgrade was suggested when we got the warranty printout but I want to do more research if that upgrade is actually worth doing or not as otherwise it just runs way to good to mess with it. Also read that it is common on the sorento's but I don't buy that yet. Need to do some more research this Winter.

Yes, I read that in the manual that at 19 mph the awd lock will disengage so will always try and remember that. Not sure myself how it all works on the Sorento. You're right, TS and SC are different and sometimes I forget that. Pretty sure my CRV has SC as it kicks in on the flats if I go a little too fast on the ice in a corner. Doesn't work up our hill though so we always need to turn it off before climbing.

My KLR runs fine up the hill. I just screw sheet metal screws in my D606's and that does the trick on the hard ice. Got to love those KLR's.