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CAI vs SR Intake

Getting ready to change the intake on my 04 Optima 2.4 but looking for opinions/advice....... Cold-Air or Short-Ram Intake.
KFX makes a Cold-Air kit but it looks like the Short-ram would be a "piece-together"

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A true CAI, properly routed and sized, will help. Can't say how much. A Short Air Intake will draw air from under the hood.(That includes the temperature of the underhood air). The non-restrictive air flow of both types is going to help also. Nneither of these types is a "Ram Air Intake". Different animal altogether.
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I mentoned in another thread you can goto home depo and use pcv plumbing to make your own cai and then run it out to the front grill and cut a whole in the grill where the tube is and you will have a ram air intake which adds about 20 horsepower. Use white tubbing and you can custom paint it as well.
20hp, what planet are you from. You would be lucky to see 2hp from an intake. Get a reading buddy.




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I mentoned in another thread you can goto home depo and use pcv plumbing to make your own cai and then run it out to the front grill and cut a whole in the grill where the tube is and you will have a ram air intake which adds about 20 horsepower. Use white tubbing and you can custom paint it as well.
Trust me. If Kia could get an extra 20 HP out of their engines by just adding a ram air intake, it would be done. The ram air effect doesn't start till you get up to some pretty could speed. I would like to see some track numbers to prove me wrong.
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Its a RAM air intake. Big diferrence. Its like having a turbo. You shuld read the post before you just talk.
Short ram with the engines hot air, you do a little reading, hotter air yeilds LESS HP, cold air is where any gains will be seen. Its not the length of the intake.
Shorter does not equal, more hp, actually the longer intakes that are true Cold air intakes will yeild more, maybe 3-5 hp. MAYBE.
And please do not compair and intake with a turbo, its like earth and pluto, 2 totally different things.

No intake is a turbo, or even "like" a turbo.

You wont see any gains from your short ram intake. Do a google search, or go to any forums and look at intake threads. You are clueless, or new to car mods.




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Its a RAM air intake. Big diferrence. Its like having a turbo.

This is the best saying ever, I gotta say, ram intake, huge difference LOL, Not quite there bud, and its not like a turbo, do a little research, VERY DIFFERENT.

If anything your HOT AIR RAM INTAKE is netting a lose in hp numbers.
Do a dyno, then come back.

Proven fact,
Hot air will create LESS HP than a colder intake air temp. PERIOD. The only exception is on a turboed car. But yours is not. No gains for you, maybe a mile or 2 MPG gain.

Here is just ONE article, there are millions more showing it will lose HP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_ram_air_intake




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The actual "TURBO" is what forces air in, NOT YOUR LITTLE FILTER.
YOu can hear it better, hearing your intake does not make HP. A cone filter does this. LOL. Really you must be new to cars, or a troll, or cannot read. GOOGLE IT, post me ANY LINK to a claim of 20+ HP wiht adding a cone filter.
I am gonna call you on this, POST A PIC OF YOUR INTAKE, or I am BETTING, you simply installed a cone filter, which WOULD NOT IN ANY PLACE on earth, net you any gains. Noise from the intake, YES, but that is not HP BUD.




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You keep talking but no pics, let's see your most powerful intake on the planet. This is one of a kind.

Your little 4cyl. in no way needs that much air. AIR DOES NOT MAKE HP. ALL forced induction turbo systems require you to get more fuel to the engine with the more air, forced air. Injectors, regulators, whatever the route. If you had that much air you would lean the system out and blow it up.

YOu really have not a clue about cars do you? I am by far not an expert, but this does not take an expert to know this.




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My custom CAI

Just made a custom cold air intake for my 2005 Kia Optima based on tips from this guy. I was tired of the second delay response i would get after pressing the gas. I also had a short ram for a few years which did help when my car was cool, but lost its edge when the engine got hot.


Used 3 inch wide aluminum duct from Home depot and aluminum tape to keep its shape. Had to remove the existing duct behind battery and in the fender area. . .horrible design in my opinion. Also used plyers and peeled back opening to fender area so aluminum duct could fit through.

Been driving around and after 1st tank of gas, the response of my car to pressing down on the pedal is night and day. . .try it and see for yourself.

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What model kia is this?
Dual tb?

ITs not ME personally knowing anything, by far do I, just look on the net, in no instances, even with the best AEM intake and the likes are you going to see anything more than 5-7 hp, thats like tops.

Just google man, its your friend sometimes. There is tons of info on what an intake wi
ll net.

Guess the only way to prove me wrong or the likes on the net would be to get proof of your statement.

Now knowing everything as you say, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH YOUR ASSUMPTION ON HOW MANY HP you got from the intake.

Does it "feel" like 20 hp, how does 20 hp feel?

Have you done an actual dyno test before the intake and after the install? That would be the only way you actually know how many hp you are getting from it, as of now with no actual prrof, for all you know you could have lost 5 correct?

Or are we know, back at "its feels like 20hp". I think you are feeling the "placebo" effect of your install.

I would like to know what 20HP would feel like




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