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First let me say I am no expert. I am old school. I do know that the picture above has 2 Short Air Intakes (SAI) not Cold Air Intakes(CAI) or Ram Air Intakes(RAI). Second. There is a massive restriction at the point these two sets of intakes come together. If those 2 pipes each fed 2 cylinders then there would be a better chance of releasing some horsepower. 20? I doubt very much. Even if you mange to get a decent hood mounted scoop and if you get some good plumbing and manage to get some forced air into the engine you won't be able to get it past the restriction. I said earlier if you want to proove what you are saying(or disproove all of us that diagree with you) then I for one would like to see some time slips. Butt dyno's don't count. Believe me when I tell you if I had a real slip for every butt run I have heard of or had I would be a very old and wealthy man. The engines always sound louder when you install a SAI.

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I also want to note you can try and put x amount of air into the intake manifold from your intake, but it itself can only take so much, so another resitriction point is the intake manifold. You can put this much air into the intake, but can the intake manifold actually flow the same about, I am betting not, unless your ported that intake mani. Try putting forced air into a 3" pipe than downsize it to 2" a foot farther down, what happens to that air flow at the point after the 3" it is entering? Is slows down, becuase it was designed for a 3" pipe flowing X amount of air, that that 2" pipe manifold cannot. now all that air you were trying to force into that chamber, just cannot be put in there, it is not desinged for that amount of air, so even though your intake is better than the stock unit, you are still restricted at the IM, so not HP GAIN, LOSSES if you look at it this way.




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1fastkia, this person is just messing with you, I hope. And if not, dont argue with stupidity, it gets know where.

I mean come on, a mechanic told him so... And I pvc pipe... everyone knows thats what pro's use when building anything for an automotive purpose.

Dont argue with this person, if some one is dumb enough to listen to the nonsense, let them listen... Proof is in the pudding, and reading these posts is pudding enough.
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I see what you did there. No, I have no intrest in arguing with nonsene. But thanks.

PS: Kia never made a tiburon.
PPS: A 96 model shares nothing with the performance minded eclipse GST or GSX, or even the dodge neon powered GS.

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A 1996 Tiberon is rated at what, 130hp? A 20 hp increase is about 15% more power. Given that what's shown isn't a cold air setup, I would assume at best similar intake air temps. Since what's shown isn't a ram air setup, what's left is the possibility that whatever air intake was on this vehicle before must have been quite restrictive compared what's on there now.

Prior to supercharging it, I tried a few air intake mods to my chevy truck's 5.3L. I never felt in my butt dyno any changes due to my intake mods. I did feel a slight change when putting on shorty headers, a significant change with a bigger cam, and of course the biggest change with the supercharger.

Bottom line, a 20 hp increase is possible, but just how dirty was that air filter in the previous setup?
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I have 96 Kia Tiberon. This is a performince car.chevy truck is not the same. That is like to compare toyota tercel to celeca. celeca will be way more hp with same mods.
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PPS: A 96 model HYUNDIA TIBURON shares nothing with the performance minded eclipse GST or GSX, or even the dodge neon powered GS.
Engine displacment = more power and more apt to gaining more power from mods, so your theory is backwords. Again.

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They are NOW, they were not in 1996. In fact they did not start sharing alot of stuff untill the early to mid 2000's, so again your car shares nothing with a kia.

Your engine is an air pump. The more air you can pump the more power you will make. You should prolly gander over some basic engine studies before you go on with your flurry of theorys all over the internet, not that I care to much, but you will really help yourself by learning how it actualy works, since you seem to want to mod your car, knowing what your engine actually does will help alot.

I had to learn this as well, I listend to a bunch of nonsense because it was what I wanted to hear when I was younger, come to find out 90% of it was untrue. It helped alot to understand the basics. Not trying to beat you down here, making an honest try to give some sound advice before you get to far into nonsense land and it seems very hard to get out.
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People allways think they know everthing in a forum. Even tho I have pics. It is possibal to tune a car well with out buying $400 turbos. 20 hp is not that much to expeck from a air intake upgrade. Where is yur proof?
Sorry , but unless you provide dyno sheets , I won't believe that 20hp gain.
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A 1996 Tiberon is rated at what, 130hp?
No, Zero - it doesn't exist, other than La La Land.

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Where is yur proof?
We made no claims, what do we have to prove? Your car comes stock with 100hp at the wheels, Ok, here is a math equation for you, if you added 20hp with that intake, you just upped your HP rating with a simple intake by 25%, that would not happen in this world or even an imaginary world.

You would gain maybe .5-1%, not 25% gain.

You must be 15 and this is your first car, or you are totally clueless.
Hey I got one for you, if you change to iridanium plugs, you will gain 35 hp. From the better spark they give over a stock plug. And if you add an custom exhaust you will add 75hp because the piping is bigger and it flows 75% better than the stock one.

LOL, get a clue bud.




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