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Question Sportage just died; fuel filter and or pump?

My wife and i just purchased a used 96 sportage 4x4 for $1500. The guy put in a new radiator and water pump for a good price, but not the timing belt(please dont be the timing belt).It seemed in good condition w/ only 122000 miles. Its seem to have been sitting for a while, but it ran great and didnt stall or even sputter even w/ AC running. We just filled it up 2days ago and she was down to a little less than half a tank on a curvy road and it just died. It starts but stalls out like no fuel comming in, even when pumped. Went for the cheap and easy 1st changing the fuel filter(9 bucks-2 hours, its tight in there) When i removed the filter the "gas" in it was rusty orange, very dirty. Got it back togeather and fired it up it took a couple of tries but it did start and run a little better than before but still stall out after a bit of running really rough. It seems like it wanted to level off but never did. I did some internet searching and found this site-WHICH I THINK IS GREAT!!
Im new here and not the most mechanicly inclined, but can grasp basic concepts and follow direction.
Does anyone have a clue what i could do next?
Ive read about the pump and tank issues w/ rust and gunk(i believe its been sitting a while so it makes some sense)
My plan is to try looking for the tank acess hatch behind the rear seat and see what i might be able to do; look at screen and tank consistantcy....
Any input is greatly appreciated and thanks to all who have offered up their problems , solutions, and information.

Also i want to change the plugs... can anyone offer info or pictures to direct me?

Again this is a used vehicle i purchased, and have no clue whats been done or needs to be done...
It does have a new catalytic convertor exhause system.


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Got the acess panel open and the cover off the tank, didnt disconnect hoses so i can pull it up, but looking in it looks pretty rusty; will try later today.
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Most likely the old fuel and rust is the problem, tank will need a good flush out and lines cleaned. A good site to check out for all KIA owners is www.kiatechinfo.com ,free to register and you can view online manuals in the shop section. Clean tank as best you can, add 1 cup of methylated spirits to next tank of clean fuel, it helps with moisture etc in lines. Rusty tanks etc are a pain, I used to do restorations and hot rods so you can imagine the things I have seen. Best of luck.


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look at this site. They show motorcycle tanks but gas is gas...
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Hi...same as the old Mazda truck i was talking about in another post.
There was rusty gas comming from the fuel pump.I replaced the pump,but it only ran a day,,then the same thing.Sputtering,and no power.
Yup........same thing.Rusty gas,,from a vehicle sitting a while...specially with little or no gas into it..
Do like they say,,flush it out,and make sure its very clean inside.
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My 99 sportage is doing the exact same thing! The dealership cleaned EVERYTHING out- pulled down the tank and cleaned it out too. Even cleaned and soaked the fuel injectors for 3 days?! I've had the car for 5 days now and yesterday it started acting up again. So, I don't know how much luck you'll have cleaning everything out. I know before I bought it it had to have been sitting there because the tags were over a year expired.

If everything was cleaned out so thoroughly why is my car all of a sudden acting up again? Should I have used a better type of fuel? Is it going to take a few full tanks EVEN though it was alllll cleaned out?

I'm taking mine back to the dealer (hope it makes it) on monday- I'll let you know what they say and do. PLEASE let us know if you figure it out
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So......
I got the old out, its a complete mess in the tank. Lots of rust and debris; even found 2 pretty good sized sticks. The old screen was torn all down one side and full of rust and debris. When i removed it from the bottom of the pump the hole was slam full of trash. Oriely auto had the pump for $99 and the screen for $20 w/ warenty. I switched the pump and small hose inside with the new and had a time getting it to fit back into the tank properly seated. Finally, got it set and screws in, everything tucked and connected...........
Starting; it turns and turns but never catches and fires! Almost wore the battery down and don't wanna burn the starter up, plus night has fallen here.

So, i m stuck!

I'm thinking the lines have filled w/ trash up to the engine after disconnecting from pump assembly. i didn't replace the electrical connectors that came w the new because the wire ends were different so mabye i should follow it back w the volt meter........

My plan is now to disconnect the fuel filter and put a can down to catch fuel when i turn the car on to 1)make sure the pump is pulling and or 2) remove air from the line so it might start.
Does anyone know of a bleed valve or anything useful in that dept?

Thanks to all who have read my post and relayed info or shared experience.
My thought was that if i can get it home w the new strainer then to the shop for a tank and line flush that would be great.
Any ideas on a ballpark figure for tank drop and flush including lines?
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Today im pulling it to the mechanic who gave me a $200 estimate to pull tank and flush lines. I'm hopeing this straightens it all out. Wish us luck!
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Made it safely to the shop w/ a chain tow, now just waiting to hear the story.....
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I think a good clean should work wonders. Best of luck with it and keep us informed. Aren't cars wonderful , they never cause any stress or expense.


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