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Old 01-23-2019, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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I don't see a way to edit the original post, so please be aware that I mis-used crank to mean "running" in a few places.

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When you turn the key to the run(not crank) position, do you hear the in tank fuel pump whirr for a couple seconds? If you have spark, then the injectors should also be firing when cranking the motor. but if the pump is not supplying fuel it won't start.
You could try a shot of starting fluid or carb spray down the intake and see if it fires off on that (till the spray is used up). If it does, then I would say that indicates a bad fuel pump or wiring to it!
I did hear the whirring noise, but I don't have any starter fluid handy. I'll get some tonight and give it a try tomorrow morning. Can I just un-do the rubber/plastic housing over the air-filter, spray some up the tube and then lock it back down or do I need to find someplace closer to the engine to spray it?
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... You could try a shot of starting fluid or carb spray down the intake and see if it fires off on that (till the spray is used up). If it does, then I would say that indicates a bad fuel pump or wiring to it!
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Anyway, try the above suggestion, which might have gotten lost in the shuffle. Doing this test will not resolve your vehicle's problem, but it will at least get you moving in the right direction.
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Apologies that I don't know the preferred terminology. I thought crank mean that the engine was running. I'll go back to the original post and edit my mis-use of Crank.

Here is the current status: I put the key in, I turn the key, the engine turns over multiple times, but it will not get to "running". It may chug a time or two just to tease me, but it never runs.

Battery: I had it check by 2 different stores ( O'Reilly and Advanced Auto) - both said good both in volts and amps. I've replaced both battery terminal connectors ( because both had corrosion and the nuts used to tighten them had seen a bit of wear -- and I cleaned all the corrosion off the battery terminations with one of those wire brush tools.
Go back and read post #6 then, Turn the key to the RUN position(dash lights up) and listen for a short "whirring sound from the gas tank area. if not you may have a bad fuel pump(or out of gas). Then try a short spray of starting fluid(a spray can) directed into the air hose from the air cleaner and try cranking the starter motor. IF it fires off and runs(till that shot of fluid is used up) then then fuel pump is not working and needs to be checked for why not.
Last possibility is the timing belt may have jumped and by the year of your ride is overdue for replacement to prevent catastrophic engine damage if it should jump or break(if it has NOT been replaced already).
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Go back and read post #6 then, Turn the key to the RUN position(dash lights up) and listen for a short "whirring sound from the gas tank area. if not you may have a bad fuel pump(or out of gas). Then try a short spray of starting fluid(a spray can) directed into the air hose from the air cleaner and try cranking the starter motor. IF it fires off and runs(till that shot of fluid is used up) then then fuel pump is not working and needs to be checked for why not.
Last possibility is the timing belt may have jumped and by the year of your ride is overdue for replacement to prevent catastrophic engine damage if it should jump or break(if it has NOT been replaced already).
Excelsior! The starter fluid allowed the engine to catch and it started. Blew a LOT of white smoke out the tailpipe at first, but it running! Let it run for 2 minutes, turned it off, and was able to start it again. Same test after 15 minutes of rest - and it started again.

Thanks for everyone's help - and instruction on the correct definition of crank vs start.

I'm back to the original problem now, so I'll be posting a new thread for it.
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Excelsior! The starter fluid allowed the engine to catch and it started. Blew a LOT of white smoke out the tailpipe at first, but it running! Let it run for 2 minutes, turned it off, and was able to start it again. Same test after 15 minutes of rest - and it started again.

Thanks for everyone's help - and instruction on the correct definition of crank vs start.

I'm back to the original problem now, so I'll be posting a new thread for it.
Glad you're making headway, but before you start a new thread tell us what the "original problem" is.

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Glad you're making headway, but before you start a new thread tell us what the "original problem" is.
Sorry, I just posted it. It's the intermittent blower I may have mentioned in the original post of this thread.
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Sorry, I just posted it. It's the intermittent blower I may have mentioned in the original post of this thread.
OK, its not related to this.

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Excelsior! The starter fluid allowed the engine to catch and it started. Blew a LOT of white smoke out the tailpipe at first, but it running! Let it run for 2 minutes, turned it off, and was able to start it again. Same test after 15 minutes of rest - and it started again.

Thanks for everyone's help - and instruction on the correct definition of crank vs start.

I'm back to the original problem now, so I'll be posting a new thread for it.
That is great news to hear about it getting the engine running! sounds like you had a "flooded" condition as the root cause.
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.... The starter fluid allowed the engine to catch and it started. Blew a LOT of white smoke out the tailpipe at first, but it running! .....
Glad to read it's running now, but it sounds like there was either water or coolant in the cylinders causing the problem. So you should check the coolant level now, and regularly in the future.
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