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I'm thinking of buying a Niro EX Premium to replace my VW TDI that will soon be bought back as part of the emissions debacle. During a test drive I plugged in a USB thumb drive I have with a lot of music on it (~1200 CDs). The artist listing never showed anything beyond the "J"s. In looking at the owner's manual online, there appears to be a 6000 file limit. There is also mention of saving music to "My Music" -- is there a hard drive in the system and that's where the limit is, or is there truly a limit to how many files the system can read on a USB drive?

I know most people are either using bluetooth or Apple/Android auto to play music, but I'd prefer to not have to hook up my phone for music every time in the car. If there truly is a 6000 file limit, that just seems like such an arbitrary and small number, especially given all the other bells and whistles this car has.

Does anyone have any detailed experience with the USB Media interaction to share? The dealership didn't seem to know much about it.

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Can't help with the system in the Niro but do you really need *all* of your music in the car?
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I know I'm not the norm, but music is a big part of my life and since I already have it all on a tiny thumb drive, why not have access to whatever I'm in the mood for at the time? Cars rarely come with CD payers anymore, so it's clear that manufacturers are pushing drives/phones -- just odd to limit something that saves them exactly $0 in production (and they saved $ by removing the CD player). The other cars I've been looking at didn't have any trouble reading the entire flash drive. It's not the main reason I'd pick one over the other, obviously, but I was just curious if I'm missing how the Kia system truly works.

The two VWs we are/will be getting rid of had limits on the # of files the SD card slot could read, but the main USB port did not. It's been really nice just to have the drive sitting in the armrest at all times and that way the wife or I could pick whatever we wanted.
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I discovered the My Music feature yesterday and while I think the implementation of it is flawed the idea of it is fantastic. I have a USB stick with 15 folders on it basically setup by Genre.. you can select a folder and then shuffle the songs from inside the folder easily and you can also just shuffle ALL the songs on the USB stick quickly, I love that.. Using my voice I can get to the My Music section also, the issue I have and others have stated the same is that you have to copy songs to the My Music section one at a time from your USB stick, that is silly. Still, I will spend the time to get a fair number of songs on there, you know, just because I can.. Love the idea of having a selection of my music available with out having to plug in a usb stick or even being able to play my music while my phone is plugged in for Android Auto use. I have my files tagges nicely with album art and so far all 32 songs I have transferred over have had zero issue displaying the art or track and title info. Gonna call it a win for now, there appears to be around 6GBs of space, which should translate to close to 750 - 1000 songs if my math is correct.. that is plenty to choose from..
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I just bought a 2018 Niro PHEV EX Premium - after driving a 2007 Kia Rondo for 11 years. I'm loving almost everything about the car, but this aspect of the AV system is a real disappointment. The first year I owned the Rondo, I replaced the factory radio with a Pioneer AVIC FBT-90. That system now feels very slow, and by tech standards, it is ancient. But it supports music on either a 32gb USB stick OR a 32gb SD card - either (or both) of which can stay in the vehicle all the time. I was really surprised when I read in the owners manual that the SD slot is only for the map card, and a USB stick with music on it should never be left plugged in when starting the car. The "My Music" function addresses some of those concerns - but I have now read all of the manuals that came with the car (a LOT of reading), and no where in there did I see an explanation of how "My Music" works (only one or two mentions that it exists.)
6gb of on board storage is a nice start, but it pales in comparison to the 32gb supported by my 11 year old system.
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I had a problem with my USB stick. It plays tracks alphabetically, rather than by track number. As @lifterguy mentioned, the documentation is minimal.

I formatted the stick to FAT32 (tried ext2 earlier), wrote a few directories of artists, under each artist is a one directory per album.

Fewer than 20 albums.

I could choose by artist or album, but the tracks were played alphabetically. Though I briefly saw the tracks displayed in a different order.

Kia phone support couldn't find the specs for the order in which tracks are played.

Has anyone found info on this?
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Sometimes track order, sometimes alphetical

Every once in a while, I see the tracks being played in a non-alphabetical order, I believe it is by track order.

But I don't know what causes the play order to change.
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Here's a thread in the C'eed forum that says it sorts them in copied order. So, the first files you put on there are the first files listed.

https://www.kia-forums.com/kia-ceed-...ect-order.html
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