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Actually I don't think that's true? From what I've read, the manual specifically warns against driving in 4HI on dry pavement because the system is locked and there is no slippage between the front and rear wheels. The only time slippage is allowed is when its in AUTO. If driving on dry pavement in 4HI will cause damage that means the front and rear must be locked.
That has been my experience also. Last year when we had a lot of snow, I would see some slipping in auto, but not in 4x4hi. I spent a lot of time driving around in the snow and ice testing the capability of this truck, thus my comments.

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That has been my experience also. Last year when we had a lot of snow, I would see some slipping in auto, but not in 4x4hi. I spent a lot of time driving around in the snow and ice testing the capability of this truck, thus my comments.
Agree-if 4HI allowed for slip it wouldn't be 4HI, it would be all wheel. As far as I know there are only two types of 4WD systems that came on the Borrego and the 1st gen Sorentos:

EST (Electronic Shift Transfer) - ??? Sportage and 2003-2009 Sorento

Basically this is like what you would find in any pickup today-an electronically (as in not an actual shift lever) shifted transfer case engaged by a knob on the dash. EST vehicles have a selection of 2HI, 4HI, and 4LO.

TOD (Torque on Demand) - 2003 Sorento (optional) and 2009 Borrego (standard)

This is essentially the same as EST in terms of 4HI and 4LO but there is no 2HI-2HI is replaced by an AWD system that transfers torque "on demand" to the front wheels if the computer deems it necessary. AWD is the default for all terrain and road conditions as the system is not locked, and the front and rear can vary in speed without a problem. In 4HI or 4LO the system acts just as any other conventional locked 4WD system-not AWD.
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I've had a suspicion, but after reading the last couple posts, I don't think my 4x4 system is doing much of anything... Drove it to work today, and did a quick test. In 4x4 mode, I put my foot lightly on the brake, and then gave it a little gas. (I was on snow/ice) The rear tires spun like crazy, the front didn't budge at all. (esc was disabled)

Time for it to go to the dealer...
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In snow my rears slip a little and then it justs grabs and takes off like a rocket. So I do think there is something wrong with your 4x4. My does like to fishtale a bit. I think that has a lot to do with the tires.

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For sure

For sure the stock hankooks suck on snow and ice.


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In snow my rears slip a little and then it justs grabs and takes off like a rocket. So I do think there is something wrong with your 4x4. My does like to fishtale a bit. I think that has a lot to do with the tires.

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For sure the stock hankooks suck on snow and ice.
Our Borrego is coming with these:



I'm not actually sure why as with 28K the stock Hankooks should have had enough left life in them to pass the CPO inspection, but I'm not complaining either. These look like marginal A/Ts at best, but they're probably better than the Hankooks. The car is currently making its way east (hopefully without any weather delays) and is set to arrive Thursday!
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