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Started the Borrego this morning and while starting it made a strange sound then the fun began sounded like it was running on 4 of its 8 cylinders and was shaking and bucking all the while the check engine lamp was flashing away like a beacon of distress then all of a sudden it just leveled out and everything was fine again. Looks like a trip to the dealer is in order. Funny thing the day before when I started it, it started just fine but let out a HUGE cloud of smoke!

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Definitely Take To Dealer....should Have Stored Codes From Check Engine Light In History...
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Definately go to the dealer. It sounds like maybe something to do with cam position sensor or similar.


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On my old CTS, I lost half my cylinders due to a intermittent ground in the ignition system. It felt like the car was misfiring. If it comes and then mysteriously goes away, my bet is that it is an electrical gremlin. Hard to tell though with modern engine management systems. Good luck.

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Maybe it's those HID's you installed? ... hehe just joking..

Sounds bad though, hopefully they'll figure it out quick for you.
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Dealer said that it happened because the night before when I started the truck just to move to the other side of the driveway I didn't warm it up enough before shutting it off, hence some valve in there somewhere didn't close all the way and allowed raw fuel to leak into the cylinders all night hence flooding out the motor. They said never shut the motor off cold if it didn't run for at least 5 minutes prior. Said there were traces of fuel in the oil also and they changed that too to the tune of $38
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The dealers reason shouldn't happen as the injectors should close fully when the engine is turned off whether it is hot or cold.


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Dealer said that it happened because the night before when I started the truck just to move to the other side of the driveway I didn't warm it up enough before shutting it off, hence some valve in there somewhere didn't close all the way and allowed raw fuel to leak into the cylinders all night hence flooding out the motor. They said never shut the motor off cold if it didn't run for at least 5 minutes prior. Said there were traces of fuel in the oil also and they changed that too to the tune of $38
WTF! Did you tell them you turned it off too quick?? Regardless though really? Does that mean that hundreds of these vehicles could literally fall apart if you run them less then five minutes.... garbage. Next time shrug your shoulders man and tell them to fix it.
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The valves are for intake air and exhaust fumes... has nothing to do with the fuel except that they are timed with the fuel injectors. Not sure if I buy their diagnosis, but whatever. Keep you receipts and make notes of who you talked to and what was said. Hopefully it won't happen again.
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Sounds like a new dealer should be searched if possible (doubt it). I'd be doing the shoulder shrug too and say "gas in oil? sounds like a design flaw". If it happens to me i'm gonna play completely dumb. How many times do you drive your car for under 5 minutes cold over the life of the vehicle. If its so electronic and smart, it should shut itself off after its properly warmed up.

I gotta say, my V8 doesn't idle completely smooth unless I rev it up around 1000 rpms. I don't mind the rumble (sounds nice and seems normal) but I sorta thought it would be more smooth.

I have also had a few starts where it turned over quite a while until it started, and this was from cold starts.

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