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Considering a Borrego

So the wife gave a green light to the idea of purchasing a Borrego. I'm set on getting the 4wd V8 and with Nav. I mostly want the nav for convenience and pure laziness of not having to put my phone on the dash. Any issues with the Nav unit? Any quirks that owners have noticed? Anything I should be looking out for?

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Make sure you get the update for the Nav Program. If it has the one that came from the factory it is 5 years old.
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Get it!!!

I love mine so much! Funny thing is my wife and I went for the Sorrento and I jokingly asked what the ugly orange truck was (don't care for the rust color). He told me it was a left over Borrego with 400 miles on it I then asked him what a Borrego was other than a desert and he didn't have much info so I took it for a test drive. I thought it was nice and did my research went back to the dealer in the day saw that it was all Black none of that plastic running boards crap and bought it that day. I recommend the black at least for my visual pleasure the black looks the nicest seeing it is all one color next I feel the red/maroon and then the rest are all just nice. It has the Genesis V8 before the Genesis had its V8 haha. It doesn't have the 5 series tranny like the Genesis but I have only noticed slight delays in downshifting into first. The thing is a BEAST in the power department but it also has a hose instead of a straw when it comes to gas. I have only seen my avg mpg be better than 20 once and I had reset it on the highway and drove 300 plus more before slowing/stopping. But, I didn't get it to compete with a Prius I got it because it is bigger faster stronger and better looking than a Ford, Toyota, Honda, GM or any SUV except when you get into the really big ones. The brakes do take a beating before I forget. I also towed my Crownline 260 and my Dutchman 27' camper with no issues really. I will say the boat was really nothing the Camper is big and I did wish I used my Plowing truck but I brought the family to Disney from CT and other than it really is a little to light to be towing something that big it handled everything I have thrown at it without flinching! I am 6'4 250 so I can't really fit in the 3rd row but I can't fit in many cars comfortably let alone most cars front seats! haha most adults 6' and under would fit fine (knees a little high floor isn't to low back there) in fact if it was a ride less than an hour I would say there comfort level would high! Wish they would bring it back! I would buy two one for me and one for the wife!!!!!!!!!
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If you have the Borrego (Tau) V8. Then you have the Sachs ZF6 transmission. It is a 6 speed made in Germany. This is the same transmission used in the BMW X5, and several models of the Masarati and M/Bs. It is a very, VERY good transmission. Kia usually uses Asain (sp) transmissions, but, at the time when they designed/built the Borrego, Hyundai/Kia did not have a transmission that would hold up to the torque of the (new to Kia) V8.
The new 8 speed transmissions used in the Mopar products is also made by Sachs (ZF8). Chrysler calls them the Torqueflite8.

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Thanks for all the info guys! I've yet to pull the trigger. Still looking for a good price. Most of the ones I've seen have been 18-20k w/ mileage ranging from 50-70k. Pretty good deal? Also, whats the deal with the 2 sets of gauge clusters? Not sure why there is 2 different sets for what seems like the same sub-model, must be a early/late build thing or is that strictly a "Limited" model thing? I've noticed that the one has the transmission gear indicator in the circle in the speedometer usually comes with the push button start.
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Limited models have a different gauge cluster than the EXs or the Lxs.

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If you have the Borrego (Tau) V8. Then you have the Sachs ZF6 transmission. It is a 6 speed made in Germany. This is the same transmission used in the BMW X5, and several models of the Masarati and M/Bs. It is a very, VERY good transmission. Kia usually uses Asain (sp) transmissions, but, at the time when they designed/built the Borrego, Hyundai/Kia did not have a transmission that would hold up to the torque of the (new to Kia) V8.
The new 8 speed transmissions used in the Mopar products is also made by Sachs (ZF8). Chrysler calls them the Torqueflite8.
I have a borrego 3.0 v6 diesel engine with 8AT transmission, it is ZF8 or hyundai?
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I really don't know. I am not familiar with the diesel power train options from Kia/Hyundai. I suspect not though.
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