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Exclamation the myth of all season Tires

Many tire experts will tell you that all-season tires are a waste of money; being neither fish nor fowl, they try to do everything and end up doing nothing very well. There is definitely some truth to this perception. Most all-season tires are in essence either watered-down snow tires, summer tires with winter features tacked on, or an overambitious hodgepodge of features that end up canceling each other out.

That is why I am getting rid of my new tires on my KOH with 2000 miles and putting on Nokian all weather tires . With Trade Kal Tires in Vancouver is charging me 622 .In Canada they have the exclusive and they are a really good tire chain
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Pros:

Superior linear and cornering grip in snow and ice.
Innovative slushplaning technology.
Extremely low rolling resistance saves fuel.
Ecologically responsible materials.

Summer performance is average.
Softer compound means faster tread wear.
Relatively high price

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So you are buying what you recommend against in your 1st paragraph?
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There is difference between All-Season and All-Weather tires and he just learned about this.
Depending how much he drives, it may be waist of money as those very good Nokians will be no better than all-seasons after 40K km or 2 years of driving.
Also, living in Vancouver and not taking advantage of much lower prices on tires in US is also a waist.
We don't have it too bad in the city but anywhere outside city will get snow and ice on the roads.
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So you are buying what you recommend against in your 1st paragraph?
No I am buying all weather not all season
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There is difference between All-Season and All-Weather tires and he just learned about this.
Depending how much he drives, it may be waist of money as those very good Nokians will be no better than all-seasons after 40K km or 2 years of driving.
Also, living in Vancouver and not taking advantage of much lower prices on tires in US is also a waist.
We don't have it too bad in the city but anywhere outside city will get snow and ice on the roads.
I drive about 12,000 klms/year rarely outside of YVR except maybe the occasional drive across the line to Blaine Wa where I have a US [post office box . The new Nokians are better than the older ones and are a little firmer so I should easily get 50K on them > I have driven on them before and I especially like the wet handling .Hopefully we will have a snow free winter
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All weather tires are made of a rubber compound that is more suited for cold climate, so when the temperatures rise.... They really have some to be desired too. Plus they may also may lose some benefits on long highway trips where the tires heat up and the roadway is dry.

There is no one perfect tire unless you have many sets of different tires and you want to keep changing them for driving and weather conditions. Same reasons they change tires and inflation pressures on the race track. You just might say that all season tires might be considered all purpose. Not all tires including "all season" tires are created equal. There are thousands of tire compounds and thread patterns involved and being manufactured. Do check all those ratings and many reviews before spending your money.
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I had the Nokian's installed on Saturday and we had a monsoon weekend and my KOH was perfect in the heavy rain and far quieter. My wife even noticed the difference
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I live in Vancouver proper and have a 2010 Forte Koupe SX and after 4.5 years and 55K KMs need to replace my factory Goodyear Eagles. I've called around and gotten quotes from everyone from Costco to Fountain to Kal. I've decided to go with the Nokian all-weather tire even though installed they're going to be $1,137. Costco has Michellin Premier installed for $729 but I feel the Nokian will pay themselves off in handling in our rain, addressing any rare snow conditions and thus overall safety. Will provide feedback but excited to give them a shot.
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I live in Vancouver proper and have a 2010 Forte Koupe SX and after 4.5 years and 55K KMs need to replace my factory Goodyear Eagles. I've called around and gotten quotes from everyone from Costco to Fountain to Kal. I've decided to go with the Nokian all-weather tire even though installed they're going to be $1,137. Costco has Michellin Premier installed for $729 but I feel the Nokian will pay themselves off in handling in our rain, addressing any rare snow conditions and thus overall safety. Will provide feedback but excited to give them a shot.
Jeff you will love them I bought mine from Kal ( I think they are the exclusive) on 12th and Arbutus and cannot say enough about the service from Kal. I have had mine on for a week and went drove through the monsoons we had on and off last week with absolutely perfect traction Good luck.,. PS I got a very good trade in on my tries ( 80 dollar each) so my price was 625+tax .
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I bought the Nokians at Main and 2nd location, dive of a location but great service. So far so good and never new new tires could actually make me smile. Been raining since i bought them and terential downpours this morning and not a care in the world. My Eagles were work right out so assuming I wouldn't have gotten anything for trade in (but didn't know that was an option).

And yes, they noted that they are exclusive in Canada to Kal.
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