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I picked up a 2007 Kia Rondo LX6 cylinder and it has 2 engine codes. I can't see to find a straight answer. The codes are:
P2422 Evaporative Emission System vent Valve Stuck Closed
P0198 Engine Oil Temp Sensor High

I have very limited mechanical skills. Can someone tell me how to fix these problems? What's needed to purchase and WHERE in the engine bay the fixes will take place?
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... I have very limited mechanical skills. ...
You need to describe what auto DIY you've done in the past. We're generally willing to try helping, but I don't think anyone would be up for training a novice from square one.
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You need to describe what auto DIY you've done in the past. We're generally willing to try helping, but I don't think anyone would be up for training a novice from square one.
I mainly tinker on older less complex cars from the 60s and 70s that I own. I can do basic stuff but modern cars require a different type of approach. Following a clear youTube video is usually no problem for me. In this case I can't find one for this problem on this year/model Kia. If I am told clearly what I need for parts (eBay) and what to do, at least if I feel its over my head, I can ask my good mechanic friend to help.

Does this help?
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... Does this help?
Yes, and it's actually quite a bit more than what I'd be expecting from someone with 'very limited mechanical skills'

There's basically 2 ways to tackle modern electronic-based vehicle issues. One is the 'part-hanger' approach, which is often used by many DIYers. The second method is systematic diagnostic testing and analysis, trying to determine what the problem is, before replacing any parts. That would hopefully be what your mechanic friend typically tries to do.

In the case of your vehicle, the part-hanger would simply replace the vent valve and the engine oil temp sensor, and hope for the best. The diagnostic approach would be to remove, test, and check the vent valve for debris, in order to see if it can be cleaned/lubed instead of replaced. And a diagnostic guy would test the oil temp sensor electrically, and also the resistance of the sensor itself. You would need a multi meter, and a wiring diagram of your vehicle in order to go the diagnostic route, and a service manual is usually a huge plus as well.

I'm sure your friend has access to wiring diagrams, and could also supply a multi meter, if you don't own one. If he can spare a bit of his time, it probably wouldn't take much time to check out those 2 parts via simple testing (unless getting to one or both of them is problematic). I'm not familiar with your specific vehicle, so I can't tell you where the parts are located. Either he could do that as well (if willing), or perhaps someone here who knows your vehicle can post where they're located.
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Thank you. Now I need specifics on my year and model...
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I picked up a 2007 Kia Rondo LX6 cylinder and it has 2 engine codes. I can't see to find a straight answer. The codes are:
P2422 Evaporative Emission System vent Valve Stuck Closed
P0198 Engine Oil Temp Sensor High

I have very limited mechanical skills. Can someone tell me how to fix these problems? What's needed to purchase and WHERE in the engine bay the fixes will take place?
TIA
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Welcome to the forum! With this code usually people have fuel spill during fill up? On my 4 cylinder 2009 Rondo the vent valve is not located on the vapor canister but on the top of reservoir which is probably the case with your car. Simply remove the back trunk plastic storages and look for the valve. Simple google the Rondo Went valve picture and compare, or maybe buy it at the Kia dealership and return unused if not needed. Disconnect it from the tank and apply 12 V and listen the click. Bring it outside and be careful an never use anything to trigger fuel explosion. If this works blow trough it with 12 V connected and if closed then it is really stuck. Eventually try to sock it in the hot water with dish soup or spray with WD40 etc. in order to clean inside the moving part. The new one is not that expansive Google on line. Hope this help.
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Welcome to the forum! With this code usually people have fuel spill during fill up? On my 4 cylinder 2009 Rondo the vent valve is not located on the vapor canister but on the top of reservoir which is probably the case with your car. Simply remove the back trunk plastic storages and look for the valve. Simple google the Rondo Went valve picture and compare, or maybe buy it at the Kia dealership and return unused if not needed. Disconnect it from the tank and apply 12 V and listen the click. Bring it outside and be careful an never use anything to trigger fuel explosion. If this works blow trough it with 12 V connected and if closed then it is really stuck. Eventually try to sock it in the hot water with dish soup or spray with WD40 etc. in order to clean inside the moving part. The new one is not that expansive Google on line. Hope this help.
Im sorry but which reservoir are you referring? The gas tank?
Also the previous owner mentioned a bizarre problem with the Kia not running (or maybe it was starting) if it had a full gas tank. She claimed it run ok only if the tank was filled 1/3 or less. Does this even make any sense?
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Yes, the reservoir = gas tank. Let me summarize again : if the vent valve is stuck open than wont be pressure in the tank during fill up and there is a possibility to spill the gas, because the gas nozzle wont stop by its self. But you have a code that points stuck closed valve.In that case your valve is not allowing fresh air to come into the vapor canister to de-vacuum when needed. It could be that when you have to much gas in the tank to much vacuum in the system (because vent valve stuck closed) fight with the gas pump to deliver enough gas to the engine. Anyway, you need to fix the valve and see for symptoms relief.
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Yes, the reservoir = gas tank. Let me summarize again : if the vent valve is stuck open than wont be pressure in the tank during fill up and there is a possibility to spill the gas, because the gas nozzle wont stop by its self. But you have a code that points stuck closed valve.In that case your valve is not allowing fresh air to come into the vapor canister to de-vacuum when needed. It could be that when you have to much gas in the tank to much vacuum in the system (because vent valve stuck closed) fight with the gas pump to deliver enough gas to the engine. Anyway, you need to fix the valve and see for symptoms relief.
Thank you for that answer. It now makes sense. I assume this part is by the tank and can be accessed by removing the passenger wheel well?

Now would you happen to know where the EOT (Engine Oil Temp) sensor is. I ordered one but don't where to replace it.
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Thank you for that answer. It now makes sense. I assume this part is by the tank and can be accessed by removing the passenger wheel well?

Now would you happen to know where the EOT (Engine Oil Temp) sensor is. I ordered one but don't where to replace it.
I recently solved P0456 very small leak EVAP code and had to replace the vapor canister after spending lots of time and effort to find the real cause. On 4 cylinder Rondo the vent valve is located on the top of gas tank and to access it I had to remove the plastic casings storages behind the back seats which is not difficult at all. When removed the top of gas tank will be fully exposed. I ready don't know for location of oil temp sensor. While googling the only information I get is "At Back of Rear Head".
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