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Space saver spare wheel VS full size wheel VS no spare wheel

So my new Kia has dedicated space for a space saver wheel which I am considering buying and wondering if anyone else has one. I have seen prices ranging from 150 euros to 300 euros (roughly the same in US dollars)

Also, My Stonic has a 4 inch deep added compartment under the main boot floor which should also allow a full size wheel (at least from a tyre width perspective).

From what I hear and read, the emergency goop in a can stuff is no only useful less than half the time, but it damages the tyre pressure monitoring system (which you will have to pay to get fixed along with your punctured tyre).

(All threads I found on this were at least 4 years old and did not cover all options hence the brand new thread)

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The goop is worse than useless it will damage your wheel rim. Cue those that say it wont. It will and it has. Also the goop is only any good for a tiny hole. If you have even a small tear you will be stranded. Anyway I bought a space saver for my Hyundia as I didn't have the room for a full sized wheel. Get, at the very least, a space saver but if you have the room then a full sized tyre is way better.
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The goop is worse than useless it will damage your wheel rim. Cue those that say it wont. It will and it has. Also the goop is only any good for a tiny hole. If you have even a small tear you will be stranded. Anyway I bought a space saver for my Hyundia as I didn't have the room for a full sized wheel. Get, at the very least, a space saver but if you have the room then a full sized tyre is way better.
Did you have to get a certain sized space saver wheel? They seem to be one size fits all (or fits many). The one I found on amazon states:

"Kia Stonic 16" Space-Saving Spare Wheel. Suitable for Kia Stonic with 16" 17" 18" factory wheels". I guess this means that it will work whichever size wheels I have installed on the rest of the car as the circumference should be the same across all of them. I currently have 185 65 r15 winter wheels on. I am clearly an idiot with this stuff so bear with me
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Did you have to get a certain sized space saver wheel? They seem to be one size fits all (or fits many). The one I found on amazon states:

"Kia Stonic 16" Space-Saving Spare Wheel. Suitable for Kia Stonic with 16" 17" 18" factory wheels". I guess this means that it will work whichever size wheels I have installed on the rest of the car as the circumference should be the same across all of them. I currently have 185 65 r15 winter wheels on. I am clearly an idiot with this stuff so bear with me
Usually in the back of your owners manual will tell you the size of the space saver spare - it does in the back of mine on my Soul, even though my Soul came with the mobility tire kit.
For my vehicle is says just one compact spare tire size - T125/80D16 regardless as whether it's a 16", 17" or 18" full size tire. Remember this is a temporary spare only, and is restricted on speed and just to get you to a place to get the original full size tire fixed or replaced.
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conwelpic is correct everything should be in your manual. I bought mine of Ebay new and I just searched for "space saver tyre" for my vehicle. These things that manufacturers are putting on vehicles these days are mostly to allow them to quote emmision figures and economy figures. The worst and by far the most dangerous add on so far is the stop start feature. It is ONLY there so that manufacturers can meet emission targets. It is downright dangerous because if you have the proverbial "boy racer" behind you by the time the idiot stop start system has cut in he is sitting on back seat. Of course if your engine is not running it cannot be emitting anything. Absolute waste of time just to appease a bunch of politicians that do not have a clue about what they are talking about.

Sorry rant over Happy New Year when ever it comes for you.
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conwelpic is correct everything should be in your manual. I bought mine of Ebay new and I just searched for "space saver tyre" for my vehicle. These things that manufacturers are putting on vehicles these days are mostly to allow them to quote emmision figures and economy figures. The worst and by far the most dangerous add on so far is the stop start feature. It is ONLY there so that manufacturers can meet emission targets. It is downright dangerous because if you have the proverbial "boy racer" behind you by the time the idiot stop start system has cut in he is sitting on back seat. Of course if your engine is not running it cannot be emitting anything. Absolute waste of time just to appease a bunch of politicians that do not have a clue about what they are talking about.

Sorry rant over Happy New Year when ever it comes for you.
Yes I read all about how the stop start makes the manufacturers mileage look good. It's not because it saves fuel, it's apparently because it lessens the time the engine is running and fuel mileage is not calculated during periods when the engine is off.

Oh well, I am getting into the habit of turning the stop / start off as soon as I get into the car (as have many other drivers). If I turn it into a fully automatic habit, just like putting my seat belt on, then soon enough I won't even care anymore (well, not much anyway).

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Usually in the back of your owners manual will tell you the size of the space saver spare - it does in the back of mine on my Soul, even though my Soul came with the mobility tire kit.
For my vehicle is says just one compact spare tire size - T125/80D16 regardless as whether it's a 16", 17" or 18" full size tire. Remember this is a temporary spare only, and is restricted on speed and just to get you to a place to get the original full size tire fixed or replaced.
Yes I discovered that my car has that mobility tyre kit in it. I looked at it and laughed at how utterly useless it looks. But it does come with a nice little compressor, which is handy.

So spare tyre it is for sure. Amazon has them for 160 Euros (180 USD) with a car jack and some tools, which seems okay. My manual states two possible sizes, but again, I think the circumference would be the same.
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Here is my .02:

Forte we have came with mobility kit, we use dedicated winter tires during winter season; I put summer tire in the trunk during winter and winter tire when running summer tires on the car. So, we don't have a separate 'spare' but a full size tire.

You can jack up your car, take a wheel off and check if full size wheel fits in the 'spare tire' space in trunk. If you run summer and winter tires - do what I do.
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Here is my .02:

Forte we have came with mobility kit, we use dedicated winter tires during winter season; I put summer tire in the trunk during winter and winter tire when running summer tires on the car. So, we don't have a separate 'spare' but a full size tire.

You can jack up your car, take a wheel off and check if full size wheel fits in the 'spare tire' space in trunk. If you run summer and winter tires - do what I do.
Hey, yes dedicated winter / summer tyres here too and I used to do exactly that with my previous car. The only issue is that during the middle of winter or the middle of summer (at the extreme temperatures), I could be in trouble if it is one of my front wheels that has the spare on it as it is a fwd. I suppose if it came to that, I could do a bit of tyre swapping to ensure that it wasn't

If it turns out that the space saver spare wheel doesn't come in any sort of "all season" variety, then there is no point in getting one and I am better off just using one of the off season, full size wheels.
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Exactly, space saving 'donut' spare is even worse than full size all season tire be it in the front or back. If you happen to get a flat tire, just make sure both fronts still have winter tires in the winter, you're not gonna run them like that for days or weeks anyway.
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