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You guys are arguing semantics. If your part, or the install of the part, causes your complaint/failure, it's not covered. It's really as simple as that.
It's not simple semantics when it's the actual premise at debate. If your part is the cause it could still be covered. That is entirely up to the manufacturer. If they do decide to not cover it it's up to them to prove that your modification is the cause of the failure which is what I'm trying to say. Too many people are 1) worried about stupid little superficial changes thinking it will void their entire bumper to bumper warranty and 2) don't know that it's on the manufacturer to prove your modification caused the failure in order to disallow the work to be covered under warranty. They think as individual consumers they are powerless and have no rights against the large companies that built their car. That's basically what I'm saying.


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EXACTLY what I have been saying did you read it all?
QUOTED from my last post, and in the other one before that also.


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THE PART THE DIRECTLY AFFECTED SAID FAILURE WILL MAKE A DENIAL with a claim ON THAT PART OR WHAT WAS AFFECTED OR "COULD BE" by said mod.

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That is entirely up to the manufacturer. If they do decide to not cover it it's up to them to prove that your modification is the cause of the failure which is what I'm trying to
Thats every easy with modifications... Simply, its not what our engineers, called for with said vehicle. Hence the "MAY" part of warranty. COVER THEIR ASS LEGALLY.

You gotta really think about this for a minute. If say Kia sells, say (all the fleet)(every model) say 5 million cars. OK. Not out of thought with every model. Now if out of those 5 million sold, there is a mere 500k that mod their cars In as little or as big as you can think), cause motor failures, suspension issues, trans issues, ect, because of mods, well, they are gonna lose money if they warrant every person with a mod. Simple.
Labor, shipement of parts (most are comming from Korea) paying workers, paying bills, dealer franchise bills, ect.

You gotta think, how many people out there are just throing these parts on without a thought.
With your theory, you could go out in your garage, buy a turbo kit, run that car all day and night, run great miles and miles, yet one day, a bad failure happens to the motor. Now say you did ALL maintinece, you would expect Kia to warrant the said issue, whatever it is? Come on..... They dont mention what mods will "DENY" warrant, so they can say anything, is too broad (BUT that is the system), you get by, being "broad". THats called "being legal, but a bid deceptive" within reason though.

They can, and will, (NOT EVERY dealer) mine is fine with a few little bolt ons, but MOST WILL.

Mod it man, I love it myself. Dont care what they are gonna say to me, so your barking up the wrong tree saying its wrong what Im saying. I love it when they say, well what you did cause bla, bla, even though it didn't. But I dont got the time, nor money to go to court fighting it.
After you make some good mods and something happens,
PLEASE, post back and let us know what they told you.
And if you fight it legally, let us know how much it cost you and how much time in court it took.


WHAT I AM SAYING,

IF YOU MOD IT,
EXPECT the WORST, when it comes to the warranty, and know what you are getting into.




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So what was the point of posting this?

If you mod your car you may cause damage that may not be covered under the original factory warranty.

So my turbo may be alright? If it does not directly damage something... And now the real tech who actually makes a living off working on these gets to decide if what I did was good or bad. This seems like a lot of trouble for no reason at all.

Be safe and leave your junk alone, or assume you get to pay for anything that breaks. There, we all agree.
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You guys are arguing semantics. If your part, or the install of the part, causes your complaint/failure, it's not covered. It's really as simple as that.
VERY SIMPLE for sure you are 100% right! And it has to be PROVEABLE too. If they can not prove it did it with evidence then it is moot. HEARSAY does not cut it. Burden of PROOF (AKA Denile of Claim) is on the maker not you. Ask any judge. PROVE that the mods caused the failure and I rule in YOUR favor. SIMPLE AS THAT! You can't prove, you can't deny. Or aftermarket seat covers would VOID the seat foam warrenty! by in theory trapping in moisture.

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WHAT I AM SAYING,

IF YOU MOD IT,
EXPECT the WORST, when it comes to the warranty, and know what you are getting into.

Totally agree with you. Never said it was going to be easy for all to get nor fight for their rights either. If you are lazy and uncaring then you get what you put into it for sure. NOTHING. Take a rational active part in the process to get a claim autherized once it is denied and you stand a good chance of prevailing. Unless your a Dumb GREEDY [email protected]$k A$$. We both have run up on those I am sure 1fastkia? The world owes them. Right? For me and you maybe they were CANDY. Put on this earth to be played with and toyed with as a relaxing sport.

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So what was the point of posting this?

If you mod your car you may cause damage that may not be covered under the original factory warranty.

So my turbo may be alright? If it does not directly damage something... And now the real tech who actually makes a living off working on these gets to decide if what I did was good or bad. This seems like a lot of trouble for no reason at all.

Be safe and leave your junk alone, or assume you get to pay for anything that breaks. There, we all agree.
Yes one way to look at it for sure.

"seems like a lot of trouble for no reason at all"

Proved nicely the second line of my last post to 1fastkia too.

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It isn't just a lazy jackass that wouldn't fight it.
I wouldn't fight it. It's a waste of time, NOT saying I/you/them couldn't win, but the time.... Its a car. I would rather just fix it, get it on the raod.
Honestly I do not worry about anything I install, not that its much anymore except to my 7, but of course thats way to old for a warranty concern LOL.

I wouldn't install some crap, wrong, cause damage, or if I were installing something as big as a turbo or anything, well, void it, I dont give a crap, when it dies, I will fix or or Ill buy a new car LOL..

Just letting some know, what to expect, its their decision whether they want to take their time to fight it while there car is down dead, in the shop. And if they are denying your claim, they sure as shit are not giving you a loaner.




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It isn't just a lazy jackass that wouldn't fight it.
I wouldn't fight it. It's a waste of time, NOT saying I/you/them couldn't win, but the time.... Its a car. I would rather just fix it, get it on the raod.
Honestly I do not worry about anything I install, not that its much anymore except to my 7, but of course thats way to old for a warranty concern LOL.

I wouldn't install some crap, wrong, cause damage, or if I were installing something as big as a turbo or anything, well, void it, I dont give a crap, when it dies, I will fix or or Ill buy a new car LOL..

Just letting some know, what to expect, its their decision whether they want to take their time to fight it while there car is down dead, in the shop. And if they are denying your claim, they sure as shit are not giving you a loaner.
Very well put. Bottom line OWN your decision and live with its possible pitfalls. You play you may (on occation) pay. If your a hard case, think every maker owes you by "right" to fix it free 5/60-10/100 then think again chum. You play you may pay. Own it like a man, know it going into it for sure. You and I are golden on this point. Many do not get it (they whine) at all, 1fastkia. Want to help me cut some Chedder or Blue or Chamibre or Stilton for the?

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This is the 1st time i saw this thread,
i do have one example for this conversation i think,

in JULY 2011, i received a letter from KIA telling that they are calling for recalls on 2011 Sorento "COIL SPRINGS" and after bringing my Sorento and few minutes past they told me that they didnt touch my Sorento because i changed my Springs, and they also told me that they wont fix my recall if i will not bring my stock springs back.


Here is what written on the paper work.
A Campaigns SC091 Adding Front Spring Protection
NWD - No Work Done
Parts 3969 NWD / Vehicle Modified With Aftermarket On Coil Springs


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