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#1 · (Edited)
3rd gen kia rio mileage/maintnence thread/cost

post what has needed repair and at what mileage on your 3rd gen kia rio .

post any red flags or repairs you know are definitely needed by a certain mileage .

we just bought a 2014 kia rio hatch with 8795 miles on it .the carfax shows it has had 2 oil changes so far with the previous owner and the third is due at 10,500.
so far no issues to report but we only have it maybe 2 weeks .been getting 29-30 mpg on the instrument panel mileage counter .
doing a real count now and will post my results by end of weekend .

i have read some horror stories about timing belts and total engine demolition if you fail to change it at the suggested time . these were older rio`s .

anyone know if the same goes for the 3rd gen?
 
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hey ,it be nice if you could post what it cost you to get things repaired .
like if you had the dealer replace your timing belt, what did that cost?
how much were oil changes at the dealer?
brakes?
ect,ect,..thanks
 
#3 ·
ok, so today i ran the rio down until the gas light came on . went and filled up . it took 9.3 gallons to fill . we went 291 miles. doing the math that comes to 31.29 miles per gallon . pretty much spot on with the odometer gauge readings .
we are outside the city and most our driving is rural roads and routes.
 
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Why would it need replacement. Are you having some kind of problem with it? I don't see a mileage or time requirement in the factory manual for timing chain replacement.
 
#10 ·
There are considerable differences/improvements from the older Hyundai/Kia vehicles to the latest generation. Even going from 2G to 3G. I don't think info on the issues/problems of the earlier vehicles would be of much (if any) relevance.
 
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The 1G Rios were the first car kia built on their own and were absolute rubbish. I owned one for 12 months and still shudder at the thought of opening the bonnet yet again.
(1G platform is junked when 2G appeared, nothing was carried over thankfully)

2G appeared when Hyundai took ownership and shared the platform and running gear with Accent, which isn't a bad thing.

3G still shared with the accent.
 
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so i got my first free oil change from the ford dealer where i purchased the rio . i asked what the cost of future oil changes would be and they said 34.99 and you get a motorcraft filter and a semi synthetic oil .and a multipoint vehicle check ,top off fluids ect... for 39.99 you get that and a tire rotation .

they set the oil change at 5000 miles .which i am fine with .

now the question stands

should i keep going where i bought the car for oil changes and maintenance?(bought a extended warranty there) or go to kia??

you think if i had a engine problem kia would try to weasel out saying i didnt use their kia oil filter?
i figure if push come to shove i bought a warranty there so "they" should cover me .
 
#17 ·
I would keep going to Ford, but do some research on their oil filters. Worst case, and if I was you, I would bring your own Kia filter, you are still coming out on top.

If something happens to the engine, warranty is covered. They would need to prove that the failure was a result of lack of maintenance or failure of a non Kia part.
 
#19 ·
it will cost me 180.00$ to get the belt replaced,400.00$ for knew brakes,
What belt?? These engines have timing chains, not belts. If someone is charging you $180 to change the serpentine belt or $400 for new brakes, you are being fleeced.
 
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just had the 15k mile oil change/tire rotation done (at the ford dealer..lol) 39.99 and a free car wash .
no issues to report . dealer says they use a conventional/synthetic mix oil .the motorcraft filter is superior to the kia filter i think .

It has a threaded-end bypass valve.

The advantage of a threaded-end bypass is that the oil doesn't have to wash over the dirt-laden element before entering the valve unfiltered... which is why Ford specifies a threaded-end bypass valve for its oil filters.

The Motorcraft also has larger baseplate openings, and appears to be optimized for flow.
(taken from a oil research website )(kia uses a end of filter relief valve which is not optimal)if you want to see and hear about the differences watch this video .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ANmG5PXWMg

i done this research when deciding to keep going to ford where we bought the car

these kia`s have pretty thin paint ,got a couple rock chips already and you can see how thin the paint is .

the windshield has taken a few good pebble hits and seems to be holding up well .i swear we have taken more windshield hits with the new car in a few short months then we did in 2 1/2 years of owning the saturn we traded .
 
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these kia`s have pretty thin paint ,got a couple rock chips already and you can see how thin the paint .
I recently had the entire Hatch repainted by Kia as warranty claim. The dealer claimed rail dust, I pointed out the corrosion beginning on the paint at the border with the tail light and other spots. This is after two winters in Toronto area 140,000 kms. Yes they mix brine with salt here but I can expect some corrosion after 4-5 year mark, not before. I would like to take the rear tail lights out to do a further inspection. Also the hydraulic hinges for the hatch are showing bubbling. The car got the rust control treatment recently, so I hope it slows it down.

My hood has quite a few rock dings as well, try to touch up every one with Duponts clear coat pen. Fixed two stone chips on the windshield myself.
 
#21 ·
The Wix filters, which I use on all of my other vehicles, are also superior to the Kia filter. However, on the Rio, I use the Kia filter because Kia 'requires' the use of the OEM filter for their warranty. I'd rather not argue/fight with those who built the car. If Ford is taking care of your warranty then sure, use what they specify.
 
#27 ·
Incorrect! I am an AMSOIL Dealer for central oregon, and I get this a lot. They will at first TRY to do that because honestly, do they wanna pay for it? But once you dispute and push back, which AMSOIL will help you do, they will do it.

THEY CAN NOT DENY A WARRANTY BECAUSE YOU DID NOT USE OEM FILTERS!!

If you have an engine failure to claim, THEY MUST PROVE that it was caused by the aftermarket oil filter failing!

Correct!


yeah i have heard this before . i am not worried .ford makes a good filter .
They do NOT. They keep dropping the sizes and quality. I used an FL400S on my Lexus many times, and then one time it was drastically smaller and when I took that filter off it was all nasty and gummed up. Made Valvoline MaxLife come out chunky as soup after 5k. Thats when I tried a Bosch filter with Nutella T6 - and that burned off 1.5qts in 2500 miles because of its volitality rating. Switched both cars to AMSOIL and havnt had an issue yet.

BUT! Since we have GDi, even on AMSOIL you can only go to 15k oil change intervals. The GDi is just tough on oil because of the fuel dilution. My rio started clicking louder, but thats because I drive a mile a day for work and thats it. Drive it a bit more and then it quiets up. The better oil even helped the MPG and response as well.



NOW! Down to the nitty gritty of the Kia Rio. its a 2013. 63k on it now. (oil change due at 75k). I have had caliper work done on the SAME CALIPER, THREE TIMES now. THREE. All 4 rotors are warped and jacked up. Cabin air filter has been replaced 4 times in the past year because it gets absolutely nasty really fast. Emergency brake cable stretched and the dealer said it needed to be replaced, and then the other dealer adjusted it and denied all error, Kia Consumer Affairs was supposed to back me up on it since it was documented the cable was stretched but here I am with the same emergency brake cable. Right now, it needs a new air filter, and a battery. If I let it sit idle for a long time it starts to sputter. If I let it sit too long out here in the Oregon cold, the battery dies.


Despite all the issues. The wife still loves it, and thats all I care about.

Soon to come are oil catch can, Injen CAI, E Villa front strut tower bar, and hopefully some exhaust work. The E Villa Dyno sheets are impressive and the car could use a little more pep
 
#22 ·
well they are and arent ,they sold me an extended warranty on top of the kia warranty .but i figure i bought it there and i am still a big ford supporter (did not buy their focus hatch because of reported trans issues)
worst case scenario if i have a problem i drop it at ford ,if its a kia warranty claim let them send it to kia and fight them over it .

hopefully we never have to find out
 
#24 ·
My wife went to West Toronto Kia before our drive the FLA for an oil change.

They also did a coolant change, they told her it has to be done every two years.

I called the service manager and told him that Kia recommends 4 years, not two.

We went back and forth for a while, finally issued her a credit on her account for $100.

Damn 'stealer'-ships.
 
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What is incorrect about what I said? I know they can't deny the warranty based on not using oem filters. I put the word 'requires' in quotes because of the verbiage in the manual. I'd simply said I'd rather not fight with them.

Where do you live in Oregon? I was born in Portland though we moved from there longer ago than most people have been alive and I have only visited there twice since.
 
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The denying of the warranty, they can't do it. Screw their OEM filters, I found out changing the oil on the kia how much they really cut cost and do what's best for them. Filter was cheap and heavy as a brick, most likely gummed up because i couldn't get any oil to come out of it unless I punctured the filter casing. And the oil I am waiting for the analysis reports back on. They will try, but i will fight it tooth and nail because that OEM cost efficient stuff is harming how long my car will last. Plus, I was paying $60 for that "synthetic" rubbish?! Its offensive that I fell for it... Lol but yeah, if a dealer says "no luck you used a nonOEM filter" I'd have a lawyer on the phone in 2.5 seconds lol


And I'm in Redmond, where its quiet and peaceful. Until I disrupt it all with my modded straight piped Lexus lol I could wallpaper the kitchen with written warnings. Lol Portland is an amazing town, great to visit but I could never live there....

((Also, those WIX filters you use, I can get to you for a better deal because AMSOIL has the WIX ones for the cheaper oils))
 
#30 ·
just had my oil changed again and a tire rotation . mileage is now 20,000 . no problems to report .
stock tires are at 6/32 nd all around . i suspect these will need replacement before winter . they weren't very good last winter (purchased car in jan) . i call them "driving " tires . just for your every day drive ,nothing special .
certainly not a "all season" tire .
getting 30-31 mpg depending on driving conditions . less with the air on .

brake pads are holding up nicely .
are they ceramic from factory? thought i heard that somewhere .

hmm..we put 11 thousand miles on this car since jan .
 
#31 ·
Ok so lets talk about the Warranty Law. An 'aftermarket' part is a part made by a company other than the vehicle manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer. A 'recycled' part is a part that was made for and installed in a new vehicle by the manufacturer or the original equipment manufacturer, and later removed from the vehicle and made available for resale or reuse. Simply using an aftermarket or recycled part does not void your warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it illegal for companies to void your warranty or deny coverage under the warranty simply because you used an aftermarket or recycled part. The manufacturer or dealer can, however, require consumers to use select parts if those parts are provided to consumers free of charge under the warranty.

Still, if it turns out that the aftermarket or recycled part was itself defective or wasn't installed correctly, and it causes damage to another part that is covered under the warranty, the manufacturer or dealer has the right to deny coverage for that part and charge you for any repairs. The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage.

Yes it is illegal for the dealer to see an aftermarket filter and void your warranty. If there is a oil problem and your engine blows then they will go after it. All they have to show is that the filter has different flow rates, or lacks a drainback valve, and they will say it alters how the oil system functions because yes every filter works differently. Case for the dealer. However I would fight it tooth and nail. lol
 
#32 ·
just bought 4 new tires at walmart ,yes walmart . they are called douglas tires . read all 75 reviews on them .90% were positive reviews . i done the homework ,they are made in a goodyear plant in usa and branded for walmart .
nice all season tread on them with a 45,000 mile claim on them . 50.50 a tire .couldnt beat that so went for it .

too soon to tell yet but they are quiet,felt good in the rain we just had and i suspect by looking at the tread it will be a big improvement over the stock tires come winter .

xtra trac II .
will update as we get more miles on them .
 
#37 ·
just bought 4 new tires at walmart ,yes walmart . they are called douglas tires . read all 75 reviews on them .90% were positive reviews . i done the homework ,they are made in a goodyear plant in usa and branded for walmart .
nice all season tread on them with a 45,000 mile claim on them . 50.50 a tire .couldnt beat that so went for it .
too soon to tell yet but they are quiet,felt good in the rain we just had and i suspect by looking at the tread it will be a big improvement over the stock tires come winter .
xtra trac II .
will update as we get more miles on them .
I had these on a Toyota Echo I owned-great tires in the snow,best ever I had on a small car in the snow but wild balance behavior driving them.Kind of had a life of their own,Sold the car and the new owner said he had those douglas's rebalanced and was very happy with them.Watch the tire pressure closely,they tend to loose air much quicker as they age.
I am about to put these on my Kia Rio next month.Good tires great price,Walmart serviced everywhere.You could do worse by far.
 
#33 ·
I got good use from a couple of sets of Douglas tires back in the 90s. They were then made by Kelly-Springfield which has since been absorbed by Goodyear. I bought them at Tire Pros.
 
#34 ·
i seen a set of kelly tires there in the store but they didnt have those in our size . i went as far as checking the dot code to be sure they were made in usa at the goodyear plant and low and behold they checked out .
 
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