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41k miles, squeaking brakes

My mothers '16 LX has 41k miles and recently the brakes have just started to squeak when they are applied (at times). Looks like maintenance schedule says to inspect at 45k miles. Most miles are highway, so not sure these should already be squeaking. Rotors are still ok, no shaking or anything like that.

Kia dealer just told me it will be $219.00 just for the front pads and $219.00 for the rear pads which is insane imo.

What would be better, buying aftermarket and getting an independent shop to replace or get Kia brand pads and get an independent shop to replace? I have a local shop that will do the labor very cheap.

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Maybe best not to mess with mom's car and put on aftermarket ceramic pads that bite like an alligator after they are sufficiently heated up but perform poorly up to that point. Don't want mom rolling through a stop sign because she didn't properly juice the pads. The Kia pads seem to be fine (they will lock up all four wheels if desired until ABS takes over), wear well, don't produce a lot of dust but honestly are expensive for just being daily driver pads. Pick something similar to stock at the local NAPA, at probably 1/2 the cost, and then get them installed by a competent shop unless you find someone discounting OEM pads significantly. Might be a different answer if it was your car but mom probably isn't hooning around the neighborhood and drifting the corners at the end of the street. If she likes the way it brakes now, then keep it that way for her.
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Unclear why a quote from Kia -- you still don't know the reason for the squeak. I'd have an independent shop have a look at things to find out WHY you're getting the occasional squeak, though if the vehicle isn't driven regularly, and you've had a lot of moisture, a bit of rust on the rotors when starting out (which goes away quickly, along with the squeak, after driving a short distance) can certainly be the cause. Then again, they may be worn down. Either way, it's going to require s look to know.
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omg.. brake jobs are the single biggest rip-off ever. It's a monkey-simple job and you can buy 2 sets of very good pads (better than the ones Kia provides) for under $50. Look on rockauto.com.

However, I doubt an older lady is burning her pads down after only 45k. I drive like a Bostonian and mine lasted past 50k.. and they weren't even down to the wear indicators (so they could've lasted a bit longer).

Just remove the tires one at a time, grab a wrench and flip open the calipers to see how low the pads are. If they're not down near the wear indicators, just service them. That means clean the edges with a wire brush, blast the pads and the mounting area with brake cleaner (wear goggles when you do it), lube up the mounting area with some high temp grease or copper lubricant, and put them back on. The squeak should go away. You could buy all the materials and tools to do that job (including the floor jack) 2 times over before you got to $440.. You can't get it wrong.. things only fit in one way. Just be careful to wipe any lube off of the rotors or pad faces if you happen to get any on those areas.

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WOW. When I commuted to work on local streets I often burned through brakes in 10,000 miles!
BUT, I would NEVER get a brake job at a dealer. Local shop, aftermarket pads only.
That being said, if the sensors are making the sound, service immediately, save your rotors.

As an aside, I had a scooter that went through pads very fast, and I learned that when changing them to put grease between the piston and the back of the pad. THAT can also be the cause of the noise, where the piston hits the pad.
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Yep, lube up the back face of the pads as well as the mounting tabs. Forgot to mention that before.
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Brakes are not a warranty item, so why would you pay the dealer to do them?
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Maybe best not to mess with mom's car and put on aftermarket ceramic pads that bite like an alligator after they are sufficiently heated up but perform poorly up to that point. Don't want mom rolling through a stop sign because she didn't properly juice the pads. The Kia pads seem to be fine (they will lock up all four wheels if desired until ABS takes over), wear well, don't produce a lot of dust but honestly are expensive for just being daily driver pads. Pick something similar to stock at the local NAPA, at probably 1/2 the cost, and then get them installed by a competent shop unless you find someone discounting OEM pads significantly. Might be a different answer if it was your car but mom probably isn't hooning around the neighborhood and drifting the corners at the end of the street. If she likes the way it brakes now, then keep it that way for her.
Well "mom" rarely drives it and to be honest, I drive it more than her at this point as I have a gas guzzler and in the market for a more fuel efficient work car. The brakes stop fine, just the squeak.

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Unclear why a quote from Kia -- you still don't know the reason for the squeak. I'd have an independent shop have a look at things to find out WHY you're getting the occasional squeak, though if the vehicle isn't driven regularly, and you've had a lot of moisture, a bit of rust on the rotors when starting out (which goes away quickly, along with the squeak, after driving a short distance) can certainly be the cause. Then again, they may be worn down. Either way, it's going to require s look to know.
Because I am certain the noise is from the brake pads. Not to sound like a jerk, but I have been driving since 1986, so know what that sound means. lol. It only makes the long screeching sound when the brakes are applied as it comes to a stop. The car gets driven at least 250 miles per week so rust is not built up. I just got a quote from the dealer because it is going there on Monday for some warranty work and I was checking to see if they could do the brakes while there, as we are going out of town on Tuesday and no time to go anywhere before that.

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Brakes are not a warranty item, so why would you pay the dealer to do them?
I just got a quote from the dealer because it is going there on Monday for some warranty work and I was checking to see if they could do the brakes while there, as we are going out of town on Tuesday and no time to go anywhere before that. I didn't know it was going to be an arm and a leg. I will call a local shop down the road from the house to look at it.

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I just thought it was odd for them to already be squeaking at only 41k miles. I am over company cars at work and nothing for a Ford Fusion to go 100k on the original pads. We just replaced the pads on a 2012 Fusion with 106k miles that were original.

IF the shop says it needs pads, I was thinking about something like this... https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...sn=368&jsn=368

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My mother would rest her left foot on the brake pedal when driving, which resulted in new pads and rotors in 30K-40K miles. Some of the rotors were TOAST!

She was still very sharp even into her 80s, but she never broke that habit.
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Well "mom" rarely drives it and to be honest, I drive it more than her at this point as I have a gas guzzler and in the market for a more fuel efficient work car. The brakes stop fine, just the squeak.



Because I am certain the noise is from the brake pads. Not to sound like a jerk, but I have been driving since 1986, so know what that sound means. lol. It only makes the long screeching sound when the brakes are applied as it comes to a stop. The car gets driven at least 250 miles per week so rust is not built up. I just got a quote from the dealer because it is going there on Monday for some warranty work and I was checking to see if they could do the brakes while there, as we are going out of town on Tuesday and no time to go anywhere before that.



I just got a quote from the dealer because it is going there on Monday for some warranty work and I was checking to see if they could do the brakes while there, as we are going out of town on Tuesday and no time to go anywhere before that. I didn't know it was going to be an arm and a leg. I will call a local shop down the road from the house to look at it.

Thanks.

I just thought it was odd for them to already be squeaking at only 41k miles. I am over company cars at work and nothing for a Ford Fusion to go 100k on the original pads. We just replaced the pads on a 2012 Fusion with 106k miles that were original.

IF the shop says it needs pads, I was thinking about something like this... https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...sn=368&jsn=368
Must be a Tennessee thing. My 2011 Honda Civic was down to the sensors at 21K miles, literally two weeks before I gave it back. That was something I hated paying for.
For many years I had GM cars. Brakes went in as little as 10K miles, never really got more than 15K on pads.

Daughters SantaFe 2016 V6 was turned in with 44K miles, pads were original.
My 2016 Sorento had about 27K on the original pads.
Maybe Korean pads are better than GM pads!

But we live in stop and go traffic here. It eats brakes.
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