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changed my oil today (a few comments)

I decided to change my oil today. On new cars I generally do the first change around 2k miles to get all the break-in crud/shavings out and replace the "lowest bidder" oil with synthetic oil. Some comments:

Holy smokes...17 X 10mm bolts just to get the bottom cover off to get access to the drain plug and filter.
I kinda liked the filter location on the earlier vintage Sorento where it's up top.
The filter design has changed. The new one is a bit shorter and no longer has the drain nipple so there appears to be less filter media.
Holy smokes...things are packed tight down there...hate to ever have to change the sway bar! (you'd have to drop the engine cradle or lift the engine to get at it)
Transmission drain bolt is easy to get to. That'll be awesome when it's time to drain/fill the trans later on.

Other than that, it took me about 15 mins to do. Drove it up on rhino ramps in the garage. I used a battery powered screw gun and nut driver to deal with the belly pan so it was off in about a minute. The drain plug and filter housing are only about 6-8" apart so it was easy to drain both at the same time. Easy peasy. I used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 plus a Purolator L18179 filter. It took just under 7qts of oil.

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Nice summary. Thanks.
Using an old stash of oil?
Given a choice I would use PP with the D1 G2 SN+ rating.
The PU, while a very good oil, does not have the latest spec.
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My one vehicle has a belly pan. What a PITT (pain in the tail) to remove and to re-install it manually. It got a new hinged access door installed soon after. Hinged down Access door upgrade my work for you as well... Especially if your hand held battery power driver runs out of battery juice...

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Nice summary. Thanks.
Using an old stash of oil?
Given a choice I would use PP with the D1 G2 SN+ rating.
The PU, while a very good oil, does not have the latest spec.
I just went out and looked. It's actually Pennzoil Platinum Euro L which is SN rated.

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I just went out and looked. It's actually Pennzoil Platinum Euro L which is SN rated.



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The Euro does not meet all the specs called out in the owner's manual.

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The non-Euro Platinum does.

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This is what I will be using in my 19 Sorento starting with its first oil change and what I've been using in my 18 Elantra Sport.


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The Euro does not meet all the specs called out in the owner's manual.

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The non-Euro Platinum does.

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This is what I will be using in my 19 Sorento starting with its first oil change and what I've been using in my 18 Elantra Sport.
It meets API SN which supercedes API SM. That's good enough for me.

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After seeing the underbelly pan bolts, I decided I would use a vacuum oil extractor. It works pretty well, but I only get 6.3-6.5 quarts out this way. I've thought about sucking as much as I can and then open the drain plug to see how much oil I'm leaving in, but as long as it's a minimal amount, I'm not worried.
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After seeing the underbelly pan bolts, I decided I would use a vacuum oil extractor. It works pretty well, but I only get 6.3-6.5 quarts out this way. I've thought about sucking as much as I can and then open the drain plug to see how much oil I'm leaving in, but as long as it's a minimal amount, I'm not worried.
I've used one on my 4Runner since 2003. About every 4th oil change, I either do it the old fashioned way or, in the case of the Sorento, let the dealer do it to catch up on any updates that may be out there for the vehicle. When I did it the old fashioned way, very, very little oil (4 ounces at most) drained out of the pan after using the sucker. I also am fanatical about sending oil samples off to Blackstone labs every 3-4 oil change (and will do so in the Sorento as well). They always come back perfect but with the notation that I'm changing my oil way too early. One time I called the engineer at Blackstone to talk about oil change intervals. His professional opinion, and anecdotal evidence from looking at 10 of thousands of analysis, is that today's synthetics, using a quality oil filter (either OEM or WIX, NAPA Gold, etc) can easily go 10,000 miles between changes. That of course doesn't coincide with the warranty requirements. Point is that leaving behind a few ounces each time, of oil that isn't "used up" to begin with, isn't going to do any harm.

The pre-2019 V6 engines are just so easy to do topside that I suspect more people use an extractor than you would think, assuming they are into DIY maintenance. However, the OP has a 2019 so doesn't have the luxury of a topside oil filter and has to remove the under cover in any case
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