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Opinion just hit 24K Schedule 3?

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#1 ·
I was wondering your guys opinion on the expensive maintenance schedule as I change my own oil every 5k with synthetic, I have the turbo.
Now that I have hit 24k, should I have Kia do the schedule 3 service?

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The brochure i have from local dealer has Service 3 (oil change, lubricate hatches, hinges, locks, weather strips, tire rotation, service front and rear brakes plus a whack of inspections) is $240+HST (for V6). Oil change is $50, tire rotation $50 therefore brake service costs $140, IMO.
@CrazyBiker are the above lubrication items the same as "chassis lubed"? TIA
@70challenger the list of items under Service 3 (includes items under 1 and 2) is "underwhelming", IMO.
 
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If you're paying to get your chassis lubed you're also getting lubed. As stated there are no zerk fittings on our cars.
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i suspect this is what the OP is wrestling with as am I. do you follow the Kia dealer "recommended maintenance schedule" with the items i detailed earlier? the manual, under severe usage conditions, calls for inspections of brakes, drive shafts, boots "more frequently" or every 12,000km apart from the oil change.

i'm leaning towards 24,000 km being a straight oil change (during which i suspect they do the inspections anyway just in case they can get you to pay for any work that might be needed)
 
#11 ·
Dealer's "recommended maintenance schedule" is nothing more than "store policy" and not Kia's requirement.
I chose to maintain my bought new Sportage (and Forte) 2014 myself and after 3+ years and 30K+ km maintenance cost me CAD$199. I keep records in Excel.
Forte now has 70K+ km and maintenace cost me just under $600. I did replace spark plugs on it and ATF among more regular stuff. So far all maintenance was done by humble me.

I buy Kia engine and oil filters off US Amazon and pick them up at US mailbox, cabin filters I use are not Kia made and of cheaper variety, used same NGK plugs that came in car from factory.
Living close to the border helps, about 5 miles only, I fill up in US as well as gas is about 1/3 cheaper there after exchange etc.

Watch for local Walmart sales on oil, Pennzoil Plat was CAD$28 recently, Can Tire had true synth German Castrol (0w-40) at $32 too. Install and use Flipp on your phone to check for sales.
 
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.... I change my own oil every 5k with synthetic ...
That means you're already doing just about everything that's needed in the first few years. The only other REALLY important thing to do is check the oil level regularly (every couple of weeks or so). And of course keep all of the dated receipts for oil and filters. Sure, there will be a few other things, such as air and cabin filters to inspect/replace, and those items are clearly listed in your owner's manual.

IMO, stealership service programs are a complete ripoff. They add a bunch of fluff items, none of which appear in the owner's manual maintenance schedule. And most of the actual 'inspect' items, such as fluids and belts, are checked in seconds. A/T fluid is an exception, but I highly doubt that any stealership actually checks that fluid level.

I've done all the maintenance on my Forte since new, and have needed to do only brakes, filters, and oil and tranny fluid changes in 103K miles. Some of the other fluid changes and spark plugs are coming up soon, and I do check belts, etc as well. But that's all there is, because today's vehicles don't need most of the stuff that used to be required years ago.

Anyone who doesn't DIY should find an honest independent shop to do all of their maintenance and repair work. A good indy shop will not add unnecessary, bill-padding items. Don't expect these shops to do inexpensive work, but at least you'll know you're paying only for what actually needs to be done.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for all the replies. I followed the recommended maintenance on my 2004 Mazda 3 way back when and I never had one problem with that car and always felt I was throwing my money away for them to lube my chassis(wallet).
On my Sorento I have been performing my own oil changes and kept a record but not receipts, good idea.
After all the replies, I'm just going to change the oil and rotate the tires.

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I will do all the inspection myself. I'm at 24.5K and the underneath of the car looks brand new. But other things that i will check are the brakes, change the oil & oil filter, the air filter looks new so no change there, i will check and change the cabin filter if needed but it's probably not. When I do the oil change I use an extra quart of oil to flush the engine. i will put the car up on small ramps and inspect all items underneath with the front skid-plate removed. Yea, taking off all wheels can be a bit of extra work, but worth it to check and inspect brakes. Doing this, i have MADE SURE that all items are getting inspected. The only thing that we can't do is (as a KIA mechanic) look for things that keep coming in to the dealership that are known issues. Hopefully thats what we can use this forum for. To look for the smaller things that could be bigger things later on. I will do all of this at 30K and report back on here as to what I found. I am especially interested to see how my tires are at 30K. I just looked and they are called "HANCOOK DYNAPRO HP2" , they are 17". One thing I will also do at my own inspection is that I want to paint the calipers a different color. They are bright silver right now. What do you think would be a good color? Also, i was walking by a car yesterday at mcdonalds and saw a Honda with some sort of really cool RED caliper covers with the Honda name emblazoned on them. Are those just snap on covers? If there are some snap on covers for ours, I would love that. Again, what color should I paint them and do you have any suggestions on the type of paint or a link ??
 
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I will do all the inspection myself. I'm at 24.5K and the underneath of the car looks brand new. But other things that i will check are the brakes, change the oil & oil filter, the air filter looks new so no change there, i will check and change the cabin filter if needed but it's probably not. When I do the oil change I use an extra quart of oil to flush the engine. i will put the car up on small ramps and inspect all items underneath with the front skid-plate removed. Yea, taking off all wheels can be a bit of extra work, but worth it to check and inspect brakes.
My thought is the dealer does a lot of the inspections as part of the straight oil change (though not all items specified in their Type 3 service for which the fee is $250 versus $60 on the oil change). I've never done this before so when you inspect the brakes what are you looking at and how do you measure the thickness of the brake pad which at this point is the potential issue?

Also being in Canada note we use kilometres (1 mile = 1.6km) and that we use the severe service schedule for oil changes


One thing I will also do at my own inspection is that I want to paint the calipers a different color. They are bright silver right now. What do you think would be a good color? ??
My personal preference is red. there was a prior thread where someone had discussed painting the calipers with pictures added. a search on calipers might lead you to it
 
#17 ·
My update on this is I had something pop and was hearing a hissing sound that was corresponding with engine revs and turbo engaging. Brought it to the dealer and they said, a piece broke on a intake pipe and it was covered under warranty. I was almost at 30k and have been doing my own oil changes. They ordered the part and that same day after they checked I noticed my left side tires looked low and I discovered a screw in my tire, had Costco fix it and check the other tires, they found a screw in another tire, Kia did not see this?


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#19 ·
I basically ignore the dealers Service 1,2,3 chart and instruct them to only do what is required in the owner's manual. i bring the manual with me every time in case i need to show them

my last service for the one year interval (24,000km) was $112 taxes in including the cabin air filter but I supplied my own synthetic oil (about $32 at WalMart).

Dealers can be such ripoffs if you don't pay attention and just let them do what they want. I only take it to them to protect my 10 year, 200,000 km warranty given all the engine problems some have had. For example they will want to change your oil at 6000 km, I don't let them until 8000km (in fact I don't take it in for ANY service until the OCI reaches 8000km) which is still less than the manual calls for (10,000km for the turbo)
 
#20 ·
i like the approach for sure. I am wondering if instead of exact mileage for oil changes, we could go by approx. mileage and color of the oil. My oil right now is probably a 7 of 10 on the fresh oil change index at 4,104 miles to next oil change. So the sticker on the car says i need another oil change in 4,104 miles. This is a sticker from a dealership that had the car prior to the dealership I had bought it from. So i wonder when that oil was changed? perhaps the previous dealership used it as a courtesy car,,,,why not, i found out later that my car was a rental out of Rockport Maryland. UGH :( (carfax report)
 
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