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asking all you experts!

reposted from another thread:

i live in southern california and just bought a 2016 sorento lx v6 with awd in snow pearl.

i want to get 20" or 19" rims put on the car...american racing vn806s in black satin to be exact (sorry, but the forum won't allow me to post a picture or link to the rims).

with these tires:
for the 20s: falcon ze950 255/45/R20, or 245/45 or 50/R20...... or for the 19s: same tire in a 245/50 or 55/R19

the whole thing will cost me about $1750 with the 20s ($1000 on the rims and $750 on the tires), and a bit less with the 19s (maybe $1500 total).

however, i have never done anything like this before, and am concerned about so many issues (but especially about everything fitting correctly in the wheel well, and fitting with the awd etc.)

now i've studied for several hours, and even cut and pasted all of your expert comments and sent them to the shop where i'm having the work done (especially some posts by: @GDI 3.3L Fan , @greatauror28 , and @The Wizard ), but i was wondering if i could get some direct input/advice.

1. i'm seeing different opinions about the decrease in comfort with lower aspect tires, with some saying that there's a negligible difference and others saying that it's very noticeable. from my side, i favor increased performance (and good looks), over cushiness, but don't want to be feeling like i'm driving a go cart, or bottoming out every time i hit a bump in the road.

2. i've seen concern expressed over hitting the inner fender (or perhaps other things while turning), and so i'm wondering if any of these configurations will run a risk of screwing up the actual drivability of the car. fyi, i have 5 kids, so when my family and i go for a ride we have anywhere from 800-1000lbs in the car.

3. also, what do you think about these tires? are they good? comfortable? other suggestions? @GDI 3.3L Fan i notice that you've got 275s on your vehicle (which seems really wide), although they look great in the pick you provided.

4. i like 20s, but could easily go with 19s, if it was strongly advisable not to stray outside of the oem specifications for the vehicle (which has 19s as the largest rim offered on the upper trims)

fyi, i've just begun learning about rims and tires, over the last 24 hours, so i apologize ahead of time for whatever ignorance i display here.

you all seem extremely knowledgable, so any advice would be most appreciated.

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here's the thing, there are few things you have to consider.. 1st is offset, 2nd is width, now you have to know what is the offset of your oem and measure from there..
you have to find out if the wheels that you like comes into spec

-offset, to simplify everything.. if your oem is +40 offset... higher no. will make the center of the wheel go inwards, towards the wheel well. lower no will be poking out
-width, to simplify.. lets say 20x9 is what you want and oem is 19x8, the width will be + 1/2 inch poking out and + 1/2 inch inside basing in the center of the wheel..
its not 1 inch inch poking out or +1 inch going in..

now you have to know what width you are going, judging by your tires the wheels seem to be in the 7.5-8 inch wide.. and also before you consider going this far, think also about the weight, the bigger the wheel the heavier it will become, width also affect steering.. on bigger wheels you will notice it while braking (little longer) and steering (little heavier), also a bit with acceleration (little slower), if you are not concerned much about those 3 i mentioned, your good, if you can get bigger wheels that wont weigh more than 3 lbs than oem the better.. but strong and lightweight wheels starts at 2,500$ a set..
i have gone from a set of 22's myself, looks good and then went to 19's (my oem are 18's) 22's will look nice but has cons, my 19's had a balance of both looks and performance (2lbs heavier than my oem 18's the 22's were 13lbs more) also lowered my suv for more stability.. i live in a windy area and it helps.. here's some pics of them below..

when i got the car..



with 22's (22x9 et 35-pokes 4mm more than my current) 265/35r22




with final set up (19x8.5 et 35) 255/50/19 nitto motivi tires-- quietest tires i have ever owned



notice that the tires are flush to the fender not poking out and not inwards like oem.. i consider it as a good stance..




in summary get the wheels that you want whatever makes you happy just reminding that there's pros and cons..
and have your measurements checked twice.. because either you will be rubbing or will look like a tonka truck


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nice setup kobi411, I totally agree with you.

19's look really nice. I'm saving for a set of 22s, but honestly I thing I'll end up buying 20's. I've not been able to find lowering springs for the 2016 sorento and if I get 22s I'll need to lower the car and honestly I'm not really sure about that anymore, this new Sorento is pretty low and lowering it even more is not a good thing to do for me right now. 19s definitely is the best size but here in Panama it is almost impossible to get tires in that size.

I have around a month to decide but for now I think 20s will be the best thing to do. I'm getting older and comfort is my priority.

saw this photo on instagram, I think those are 19s-20s. I like how the car looks so we'll see


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@kobi411 here are the specs.

for the 20s
size: 20" x 9"
bolt pattern: 5x114.30
offset: 40
b/s: 6.57 (i don't know what this spec is?)
bore: 72.6
load rating: 1680lbs

for the 19s:
size: 19" x 9"
bolt pattern: 5x114.30
offset: 40
b/s: 6.57 (i don't know what this spec is?)
bore: 72.6
load rating: 1400lbs

they are both made from cast aluminum.

somehow i can't find the weight of the rims (for either the kia 17" rim that my car comes with, or the 19"/20" rims that i'm considering), and you've said this is a key piece of info.

here are the links (without the www, because i'm not able to post links on my newbie account):
americanracing.com/wheel/23434/vn806-fastback
americanracing.com/wheelSpecs/6371/1902/23434/vn806-fastback

i'd also gotten the impression (from reading comments on the forum, and speaking with the shop that will do the work), that the handling of the car would improve with the larger rims and lower aspect tires, although it seems that you are saying the opposite, and what you say makes sense, if the overall package of tire and rim is heavier than the oem. how do i find this info out?

btw, i think both sets of rims you chose look amazing on your car, although i'm not able to see any difference in the "stance" between the 22s and the 19s from the pics that you provided. they both look flush to the fender.

yes, i agree that i don't want the tonka truck or rubbing that you've mentioned, so please tell me what do you think of my plans and the possibilities of tires i mentioned with the specs provided?
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@kobi411 according to this (again you will need to add the www):

wheel-size.com/size/kia/sorento/2016/#trim-33i-usdm

you mentioned that offset is everything, so my 17" oem offset is +41 (i got the lx v6), and the wheels i'm considering have an offset of +40. is this an issue?
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@kobi411 from the kia website, i have 235/65 R17 kumhos on there now, and my stock wheels are 17.0 x 7
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Higher offset=more backspace. Plus width wheel and tire could be closed to shock and rubbing.
Lower offset=less backspace. Plus width wheel and tire could be poke and touch fender on lower cars, not SUV.

wheel-size.com is very useful.
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@tuka , at 20x9 you will need to have an offset of at least 35 judging by the offset you provided me from oem you have.. 20x9 with +41 will rub inside the wheel well on full lock turns i believe..
but wait, for 20x9 you are getting 245 tires? i would get 265 for 9 inch wide rims..
-also, yes wider wheels will have more stability

this is 22x9 with 265/45/22 tires.. see that the tires hav more meat to the side to prevent curb rash.. it wasnt lowered then so it does not squat..





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@kobi411 from the latest photos you provided, i can see what you are saying about the tires coming out more to the side (compared to the 20s), although it's subtle enough that it doesn't look like a tonka truck at all.

thank you everyone for the advice/input. here's the latest plan:

lorenzo wl032 black 20" ($1180)
Custom Wheels Express

nitto nt850 255/r45/20 ($640)
i was told these are really good tires

here's what this setup gets me, according to willtheyfit.com (oem vs. new setup):
Diameter 737.3mm 737.5mm
Circumference 2316.3mm 2316.9mm
Poke 47.9mm 73mm
Inset 129.9mm 143mm
Speedo error 0% -0.03%
Reading at 30mph 30mph 29.99mph
Reading at 60mph 60mph 59.98mph
Ride height gain 0mm 0.1mm
Arch gap loss 0mm 0.1mm

and according to wheel-size.com (oem vs new setup):

Rim Diameter 432 mm 508 mm ↑ 18%
Rim Width 178 mm 216 mm ↑ 21%
Backspace 130 mm 143 mm ↑ 10%
Offset 41 mm 35 mm ↓ 15%
Typical Weight 9.4 kg 15.7 kg ↑ 68%
Tires (235/65 R17)(255/45 R20)
Section Width 235 mm 255 mm ↑ 9%
Sidewall 153 mm 115 mm ↓ 25%
Overall Diameter 737 mm 738 mm ↑ 0.0%
Circumference 2316 mm 2317 mm ↑ 0.0%
Revs per mile 695 695 =
Typical Weight 16.8 kg 15.8 kg ↓ 6%
Rim + Tire Weight 26.2 kg 31.5 kg ↑ 21%

Tire is 4 mm closer to suspension/brakes components. Rim is 13 mm closer to suspension/brakes components. Acceptable for most cars

Tire will stick out 16 mm farther. Rim will stick out 25 mm farther. Make sure that you have enough room under the fender. If not, consider narrower tires or higher offset

everything looks clean, but i have a question:

1. should i go with a wider tread (265 or 275)?
i ask because i'm not so into the height aspect of an suv, and i thought this might give some more stability.

2. wheel locks; yes or no?

3. black or chrome lugs? i've been told that black gets scraped up easily and looks bad quickly?

4. anything that's off here? or anything else i need to consider?

thanks again for the feedback and help?
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@tuka i see.. so here's my take..

1. so get the 20x8.5 +35 offset and for tires the Nitto NT421Q, i have the motivo the the NT421q is more rigid at the sides made for suv's for the size 255 should be ok its really a quiet tire..

2. wheel locks, i dont know in your area, thoe gorilla lug nuts and ceco lugs is a must for the wheels but i dunno about the locks

3. the thing with black is (IMO) they would look darker than your tire, you would want the tires the darkest on your vehicle not shiniest but darkest..
when tires get dirty, blackness of the tires fades.. and does not look good (IMO) when wheels are darker than the tires...
you dont have to shine it but maintain it dark to look good.. and of course when you scrape or when dirt comes its easy to be seen on black wheels

4. next to consider is a hub centric ring, the hub bore for the oem kia is 67.1mm the wheel you like is 72.6mm so you need a hub centric ring to adapt and fill the gap..
the ring's purpose is to perfectly center the alloy wheel to the wheel hub and prevent vibrations to the steering wheel during driving and also the shaking which typically appears on highway speeds..
my braelin wheels (ace alloy wheels in USA) comes with the 67mm hub bore and also in different sizes, so was direct fit..

you dont have to follow what i said this is just my take obviously if i was going on 20..


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