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This is a review of my 2016 Kia Sorento SX AWD. Prod date 2/15!

General Notices-
A. I would not buy this car yet. There seem to be errors in the production specifications. The 2016 produced this early has issues. Wait for Kia to figure them out and fix.

Issues-

1. All prior and current year Kia models with the EX Premium package come with ventilated front seats. The 2016 Sedona SX does (almost identical car), the Sorento SXL does. All except the 2016 SX with EX Premium package! This is most likely a production error. If you want ventilated seats and this model, beware. Wait for Kia to iron out the mistake.

The EX Premium package is standard on the SX. Not an option. Do not be fooled by others contradicting this. It is factual Kia Sorento options and standard equipment. The brochure shows this.

The 2015 Sorento SX brochure shows the SX and SXL both as having ventilated seats. They both have the EX Premium package as standard equipment.

2. The brochures that came out in April 2015 on the 2016 Sorento show both the SX and SXL as having Illuminated Scuff Trim standard. My SX did not come with the Illuminated Scuff Trim. Kia has not produced an acceptable response to this. As in, provide the Illuminated Scuff Trim.

3. The Map/Nav unit in the 2016 was loaded with 2015 software/firmware. Per Kia Map update center, Kia had to put something in to make it turn on, but the 2016 head unit is a different model than the 2015 and the software/firmware will not work correctly. Symtoms included incorrect routes to destinations, can't find address's, etc. Tested against a Garmin unit which didn't have any of the issue's the 2016 Kia one has.
Solution is to wait until the REAL time frame a 2016 model would come out in October 2015 for the Update for Maps to make it work correctly. Per Kia map update center.

4. I used to have a 2011 Sportage EX AWD and it handled much better. Different car yes. But the Sorento pivots and bounces at highway speeds on uneven roads and is a battle to control. The shocks and springs definitly leave something to be desired. If you like good handling, you won't find it here. Except and slower than 45 speeds, very comfy!

5. Kia eliminated front caster adjustment on this model. Came off from the factory with more caster on the left than right which is opposite of what it should be for road crown. Rear Camber is maxed out just to stay in spec. That's with new springs. No room for spring sag. Will wear inside of tires out prematurely.


Good Things-

1. Very comfortable seats.
2. Love that sunroof. But deflector is a little large!
3. Lots of room.
4. Engine performs well.
5. Good gas mileage. Typically 22-24 city, 28-32 highway.
6. Good towing capacity. Mileage towing 2200 lbs is around 20-23.

All the items mentioned in this post are factual and researched information. It is to help Kia Sorento owners get what they should have and help potential owners get what they should get. You, the reader are the only one who can decide if this is helpful information. Do the research, look at the documents attached, connect the dots. Beware of posters on this thread that try to discount the information. They may be spammers or working for Kia corp to discredit what they perceive as a threat.

10/17/15 UPDATE
The 2016 brochures are out for all other models now. All models that have an SX version come with Ventilated front Seats. Just as they did in 2015. All except the 2016 Sorento! Again, due to too early of a release, Ventilated Front Seats got accidentally deleted. Kia is working on a campaign for this.

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This is a review of my 2016 Kia Sorento SX AWD. Prod date 2/15!

General Notices-
A. I would not buy this car yet. There seem to be errors in the production specifications. The 2016 produced this early has issues. Wait for Kia to figure them out and fix.

Issues-

1. All prior and current year Kia models with the EX Premium package come with ventilated front seats. The 2016 Sedona SX does (almost identical car), the Sorento SXL does. All except the 2016 SX with EX Premium package! This is most likely a production error. If you want ventilated seats and this model, beware. Wait for Kia to iron out the mistake.

The EX Premium package is standard on the SX. Not an option. Do not be fooled by others contradicting this. It is factual Kia Sorento options and standard equipment. The brochure shows this.

The 2015 Sorento SX brochure shows the SX and SXL both as having ventilated seats. They both have the EX Premium package as standard equipment.
That's great. As pointed out before, this is a 2016, not a 2015. The 2016 brochure does not list the SX as having ventilated seats. Things change. And there is no EX premium package on any vehicle but the EX trim (which is why it is called the EX premium package) and the EX premium package on the EX does not have ventilated seats either. In one of your documents you posted features from a dealers site. Yes, I have seen the same thing. Every dealer I looked at listed the SX as having ventilated seats. However, Kia doesn't list it as a feature. When I questioned several dealers about it I pretty much got the same response from all...they just used the 2015 features info on the web site.

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3. The Map/Nav unit in the 2016 was loaded with 2015 software/firmware. Per Kia Map update center, Kia had to put something in to make it turn on, but the 2016 head unit is a different model than the 2015 and the software/firmware will not work correctly. Symtoms included incorrect routes to destinations, can't find address's, etc. Tested against a Garmin unit which didn't have any of the issue's the 2016 Kia one has.
Solution is to wait until the REAL time frame a 2016 model would come out in October 2015 for the Update for Maps to make it work correctly. Per Kia map update center.
Technically, you are correct in that the head unit is loaded with 2015 software but it is not a problem and is the correct software. Yes, the 2016 head unit in the Sorento is different than the one in the 2015 Sorento. But it is the SAME head unit as found in the 2014 and 2015 Soul, the 2015 Optima and the 2015 Sedona. This means it runs the same software as those vehicles. Which means it is not loaded with incorrect software that doesn't work correctly. If there was an issue with the software all those vehicles would be having the same problem as you say yours is having. While I believe it is entirely possible you were told this by the map update company, it is incorrect that Kia loaded the wrong software on the unit just so it would power on. See the attached file which shows that the 2016 Sorento has the same unit as the other vehicles I mentioned.
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Come on man, calm down. There is a block or ignore user function if he bothers you that much. No need to have a spaz attack or use that kind of language on the forum.

He is simply stating his point, you can then do 2 things with it:

1 - Ignore it because you think it is a load of useless crap.
2 - Counter it with your own points while still maintaining the level of respect he had for you.

I won't say you are wrong, because I simply do not know and we have different trims here in Canada. I will say that if the website stated it comes with those features, then call Kia america's head office and take it up with them. I have to admit that I am surprised your sx doesn't come with the vented seats as even the ex luxury package had them before.
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I posted the file to show that the 2016 Sorento has the same nav unit as other 2014 and 2015 models. Meaning it didn't have 2015 software incorrectly loaded on it just so Kia could get it to power on as you state. Yes, there could be issues with the software that may be fixed in Oct. But it certainly isn't because they used the wrong software on the unit.

You have yet to show in any 2016 Sorento documents provided by Kia that the SX should have had ventilated seats. You keep posting 2015 info and Sedona SX info. You can say the SX has the EX premium package all you want but it still doesn't have ventilated seats on the 2016s. It appears they dropped it for 2016. I never have anything on Kia's site that said the EX or SX had ventilated seats.

I don't know why you think these are production mistakes and will be magically corrected in October. The Sorento has been in production for 7+ months now.
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You have yet to show in any 2016 Sorento documents provided by Kia that the SX should have had ventilated seats. You keep posting 2015 info and Sedona SX info. You can say the SX has the EX premium package all you want but it still doesn't have ventilated seats on the 2016s. It appears they dropped it for 2016. I never have anything on Kia's site that said the EX or SX had ventilated seats.
Maybe he's confused and was looking at the Canadian website . The SX's come with everything minus smart cruise, 360 degree monitoring and front collision warning. That package is available on the SX+.

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Maybe he's confused and was looking at the Canadian website . The SX's come with everything minus smart cruise, 360 degree monitoring and front collision warning. That package is available on the SX+.
I don't know why they dropped it here for 2016, I would have liked to have it but the extra cost for the SXL didn't justify it for me as none of the other additions with the SXL were a big deal to me. Now if they were actually air conditioned seats like some manufacturers have, then maybe.
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The 2016 brochure does not list the SX as having ventilated seats. Things change.
Just a comment on the seats. I guess things do change. I wanted ventilated seats and was told I had to get the SXL...so I did.

Two weeks later, on the showroom floor at the dealership...there was an SX with ventilated seats. I inquired about it and even the sales person was surprised. I noticed it immediately, because it did not have the Napa Valley seats, but the tan interior leather seats.

It may have been a special order, because one week later while at the dealership, it pulled up on the lot driven by the dealership owner.
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Just a comment on the seats. I guess things do change. I wanted ventilated seats and was told I had to get the SXL...so I did.

Two weeks later, on the showroom floor at the dealership...there was an SX with ventilated seats. I inquired about it and even the sales person was surprised. I noticed it immediately, because it did not have the Napa Valley seats, but the tan interior leather seats.

It may have been a special order, because one week later while at the dealership, it pulled up on the lot driven by the dealership owner.

Just to clarify, the SX models in the states have perforated seats, not ventilated seats. It might be east to mistake the perforation as ventilated seats. Ventilated seats only come on the SXL models with the Napa leather (which is so damn nice btw)
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In this attachment, which is from the Kia Site, you can see all the EX items are standard under the SX column. There, done deal, EX package IS part of SX standard features. Enough proof?

So with that said, all Kia's prior to 2016 that had an EX Premium package, wether as an option or as standard equipment, all had Ventilated Front Seats in that package.

In 2016, Kia dropped the Ventilated Seats from the Sorento SX and lower only. Her article shows the SX as having Ventilated Front Seats. They do not. Only the SXL, at a hefty $4,000 higher price has them. And this is in a package called Technology which means you get things like camera's all around the vehicle. who would pair Ventilated Seats with $4,000 Camera's?

Other models in the SX trim DO have ventilated seats still. Like the Sedona.

So wouldn't this make you wonder, WTF happened? It did to me. The SX Sorento SHOULD have the ventilated front seats.

Wait for Kia to uncover and fix this mistake!
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