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I've decided to open this due to no viable findings in searches which ended up with mostly older models and other vehicles. Various countries selling Kia provide different updates and also free ones EG Australia.

I am not clear on whether the almost mandatory V10 software is even in this beast reading it. Various lines of code are not totally meaniful to me at this juncture being newbie to onboard NAV systems.

So what OS are these running on as I seem to gather 2016 has a different system but what and why so different. There is an updated for their back end software but not for the 2015!! I seen to need a specific file to decode with my device ID.

A lot of smoke and mirrors. I am posting my screen shot and hope this can be a resource for other as very little is forth coming elsewhere.

Does a new only update the firmware and OS version since the expensive cheap kia method is a download. If thats only the map i'd be only $200 poorer and the software not changed etc. Everything need updating. So confusing at this juncture for me.

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There are two different types of updates that can be made - navigation updates and UVO updates.

Navigation updates contain newer map data and may or may not include new navigation features depending on which version you have and which you're going to. In your case, going from V7 (NA.06...) to the current V12 (NA.11.41.52.661) would add both map and software updates. Some of the new features are listed in this PDF: http://www.kia-gpsmap.us/media/manua...%20Gen%203.pdf

UVO updates contain changes to the basic operating system of the touch screen unit. For example, there is a current update for 2016 Sorento which adds Apple CarPlay and Android Auto to that model. The update is not available for 2015 because the system doen't have the supporting hardware or for 2017 (presumably because it already has it).

All the information you need for navigation updates is at this site: 2015 Kia Sorento Map Update-122S3A - Map Updates. If you have a fast internet connection, you can download the update and save yourself the extra $40 to have a new SD card sent so it would cost $149.

I tend to install updates only every second or third year as I've found that the road changes are usually new roads which might possibly save some time but I can still get wherever I'm going with the existing roads in the older maps. For me, it's just not worth the $150 each to be up to date all the time.
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To clarify, the downloaded update for maps would ALSO include all the UVO updates for the heads as well. How would they know what I currently have etc in my build?

I already read about the Car Play for 2016 and looked at the Kia update site a number of times. Kia mentions nothing about the software nor did the CR rep in an response to my email either. Merely apologizing for my problem and I should buy the update at the linked site. THE END so to speak. With the software that old it should have been made available in the least, but not in Canada. Other markets are different.

Are these running on WinCE?

I found in recent use going on one of our major highways out of Toronto (401) that the Nav system thought I was in the collectors rather than the express. Even an almost 15 year old Nuvi 250 knows better with its outdated map. LOL I was not impressed. I can't say I like the full time split screen on this system. Fine when coming to an exist to direct as my Garmin does but not for either MAP mode (no destination set or with destination) a lot is missing detailing streets etc. Hopefully its vasty improved when I can find $200 to fix their bundled design in the software.

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Well adding insult to injury reading the PDF on whats new and the update linked by Kian and here ends up at the same place. Cost default of $199 is US Dollars but Canadian is a bargain $255.79 to make your mouth water. Nope but queued for a Heart Attack. Double Ouch what a rip off.

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Sorry, no... the map updates include updates for the navigation software but not for UVO. So if your vehicle was eligible for the new UVO features, you would have to get both the map update and the UVO update separately to bring everything up to date. Fortunately, the UVO updates are free. They are available from myuvo.com.

I remember the 401 - 20 lanes wide and the only free parking in the city during rush hour. At other times you're holding up traffic if you're not going 120.
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From what I understand, on the Sorento, anything older than 2016 runs on Windows CE based units. 2016 and forward is QNX based. This also explains why Carplay/Android Auto is all over the place depending on the model of car. If its a QNX based unit, you get the update, if its Windows you get nothing.

From this point, Id expect nothing but expensive map updates. Ill just stick to using my iphone for navigation. No paying for updates and free traffic info.
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Checked and not available for 2015 !! The maps would be useless without at least the base software being current. A huge waste of money. I'd like to at least get the base software updated and see how the NAV works with it.

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The plot thickens. LOL I called my local dealer and the service manage basically indicated the do NOTHING WITH NAV SYSTEMS. Anything to do with them and updates are done by Kia directly (I contacted and they know nothing and point me to buying a Map update ignoring anything about the software being updated). There is no know software or head update for this units in their checking. Furthermore my 5 by 5 warranty does not cover the radio either (only 3 years/60k km) so I am unsupported entirely.
I guess a 3rd party company is handling this for them and setting the price for the obsolete updates as well then. That part is coming together since various non Kia URL's to you to that site supporting many builds!!

There must be aftermarket updates for these system somewhere out there.

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Nope. Best you can do is change out the headunit to an aftermarket one. Problem with that is your climate info is routed over canbus to the nav display. So if you change it, you wont be able to see what temp you are set at, the mode, etc. Im thinking of keeping the factory unit, and adding an android tablet to the clock area above the nav. With chinese adapters you can do carplay to it.
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I found you can go to the USA site and get updates for $149 US which is considerably cheaper than $256 Cnd !! Its a download but with the highways in a big flux here the maps will be out of date for sure. The 400 system of highways are undergoing changes largely due to the expansion and integration of the 407/412 Toll highway which all won't be finish for a few years. Others maybe changing as well. Its a lot to pay for a one off update in these. If I found an update slightly older I might go for it just to see if the software features are implemented in it.

I doubt many owners are doing updates from all the forums threads I've read thus far on many models with built in NAV its an issue for pretty much all owners. If the majority of owner update at a radically reduce cost they'd make a lot more money than this current EXTORTION POLICY implemented !!

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Checked and not available for 2015 !! The maps would be useless without at least the base software being current. A huge waste of money. I'd like to at least get the base software updated and see how the NAV works with it.
I'm not following you - what part requires a UVO update? If you're looking for the automatic timeout of the agreement window when starting up that was mentioned in the other thread, it is included in the navigation/map update.
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