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Good point about having the heater blasting.. that's a VERY effective way to cool the engine..

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Did you touch the radiator to see how warm it got?


As for warming car up - about 5 minutes driving, mostly flat or slightly downhill at temperature of -18 C (0 F) it takes about 4-5 minutes to get to +82 C (+180 F) of engine temp. However, that is WITHOUT heat on. If I get the heat on, it will not get into +82 C even after 15 minutes of driving. Gentle driving.

So, if you remotely start it and have the heat on on max, then do not expect the engine to warm up.
If you have climate control on AUTO, it will let the engine to warm up to about 50 C and then start blowing hot air. Start driving at that point and car will reach operating temp quickly.
Thanks but, I figured all this out already, it's not my first car. Actually I had the auto climate on 70 deg. Accidently, till I got in. I usually leave it, or put it on 80 deg., then back down to 70deg. as an average.

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Don't forget the heater core is basically a mini radiator that isn't affected by the engine thermostat and if you are running the HVAC fan on high while not driving before fully warmed up it will take a lot longer to warm up. We had our coldest weather in almost 2 years here in SE TX with lows around 30. Loaded up in the car Monday morning, let it idle for about 30 seconds and then headed off to drop kid off at daycare. After a minute so of driving the temp gauge made it to the first mark so I turned on the blower on high to start to warm up and temp gauge continued to climb. Parked at daycare and I sat in car idling with blower still on high while wife took kid inside. While waiting I'm watching the engine temp gauge slowly drop back down to the C mark just from the HVAC fan being on high. Shut off fan and temp started to climb back up.
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A Complicated electronic thermostat!? Don't know if this applies to my 2015' Sorento but it sure looks pricey, & difficult to get at, Check this out: Thermostat Recall - Hyundai Forums : Hyundai Forum post #4 sure seems like my problem! post #30 is some explanation. God help me, I gotta get the vehicle with issues! I have no 2nd car right now, nor driver Never had one problem with any previous Hyundai's or Kia's,,,

No wonder my gas mileage has gone down the tubes, I'm using ECO mode now, it's a hair better, but still less the 19mpg lately
Not sure about the other engines but the V6 in the Sorento does not use an electronic thermostat. If your thermostat is stuck open you will eventually get a check engine light and a code for failing to reach operating temperature.
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Don't forget the heater core is basically a mini radiator that isn't affected by the engine thermostat and if you are running the HVAC fan on high while not driving before fully warmed up it will take a lot longer to warm up. We had our coldest weather in almost 2 years here in SE TX with lows around 30. Loaded up in the car Monday morning, let it idle for about 30 seconds and then headed off to drop kid off at daycare. After a minute so of driving the temp gauge made it to the first mark so I turned on the blower on high to start to warm up and temp gauge continued to climb. Parked at daycare and I sat in car idling with blower still on high while wife took kid inside. While waiting I'm watching the engine temp gauge slowly drop back down to the C mark just from the HVAC fan being on high. Shut off fan and temp started to climb back up.
This is a good point, I leave the temp on Auto. set to 80deg, when I shut off the car for the day. The next time I get in the car a few mins after remote start, it's blowing pretty hard as it's trying to reach that. I usually take the temp down to 70deg then, because it's mostly cooler air blowing from the ducts I think I'll try shutting off auto mode, and see how that works?

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Not sure about the other engines but the V6 in the Sorento does not use an electronic thermostat. If your thermostat is stuck open you will eventually get a check engine light and a code for failing to reach operating temperature.
Do you know as a fact that it's a normal average thermostat, I haven't looked to even see where it's at yet? I'm just assuming it's a complex thermo, in an impossible place

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you know you can activate the heated seats with remote start by simply splicing in the heated seats trigger circuit to the output of the remote start through an ignition controlled (and fuse protected) relay, right? any aftermarket remote start can do this as well, if the installer understands the diagram.
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This is a good point, I leave the temp on Auto. set to 80deg, when I shut off the car for the day. The next time I get in the car a few mins after remote start, it's blowing pretty hard as it's trying to reach that. I usually take the temp down to 70deg then, because it's mostly cooler air blowing from the ducts I think I'll try shutting off auto mode, and see how that works?
I usually turn off the controls (manual in the Soul and auto in the Sorento) completely when getting out of the car when I know it is going to be cold and then don't turn them on until the temp gauge begins to register the car is warming up.

Leaving it out of auto mode on a slow fan speed will definitely help though.
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Do you know as a fact that it's a normal average thermostat, I haven't looked to even see where it's at yet? I'm just assuming it's a complex thermo, in an impossible place
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wow really? solution though, plug in...
however to save electricity bill, have a timer with it, set the timer 4-5hrs prior to next use this way plug in is effective/efficient..
i have a 2011-2013 SX, heated steering can be left on and is heated when you get in, however ventilated seats/heated seats wont activate when you actually sit on it..
thats safety features of the newer cars, older ones can be left with heating already running warm..
if you want it warm, set the fan at level 4 bar only, point the vents to your seats and have it at recirculating mode..
i do remote start, 10-12 mins its warm @ -35C (-31F), because plug in has helped, and synthetic oil does help.. thats how i survived, leather seats here up north lol..
operating temp is reached within 5 min running 50-60 kph
for snowy conditions instead of brushing off, i use leaf blower, within 2 min there's no snow on the car..
You've got my Bike!,,, I wish I really have no need for a block heater, but miss not having a heated steering wheel The young salesman told me "The wheel button was a heated steering wheel" I was a bit pissed, when I found out it was for the steering mode, (although I like this feature!) there is no heated wheel on my EX, I really could use this feature!

The leather heated seats on start up, don't matter that much to me, they heat up pretty quick, I use them if it's very cold, but from high, to low, & then turn them off once comfortable, the heat lingers. I heard that on some cars, the heated seats even if turned on, don't activate until you sit on it. I don't know if my Sori EX is like this, haven't really tried it? I always run Mobil One. Ha, It finally dawned on me to use the electric leaf blower to clean off the walk, steps, car & driveway last year, Yes! But, it didn't work the other day, wet frozen snow, still here, in my slightly sloped driveway. Balance issue old me, gotta watch my butt, getting in, or out of the car. The chopper, & salt didn't help much either

Thanks kobi for the useful tips!

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