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2011 Sorento 2.4 AWD EX P0011 & P0014 Codes Timing Chain?

I have 2011 AWD EX 2.4 cyl Theta 2 engine and I'm getting those 2 codes. I had P0014&P0011 permanent codes when I scanned the car.I did replace the exhaust VVT Solenoid as when I was checking it I broke it off. I put in a Dorman 917-230 and now I still have the P0011 and P0014 permanents codes as well as P0014 confirmed and P0014 pending code but I don't have the P0011 code so far. I looked at the adv spark timing and it ranges from 6-9 degrees at idle. What should it be? Should it be moving at idle? Is there anything else to check before I look into getting the timing chain replaced. The engine starts fine and seems to run fine as well. It has power (Not as much as our 2005 6 cyl 4WD) Please help! Thanks!

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Was the intake VVT solenoid clean and functioning correctly? What's the oil maintenance history of your vehicle, including oil type/viscosity and filter make, and when was the most recent oil change done?
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Read and follow this: https://www.700r4transmissionhq.com/p0014-kia-sorento/

Change your motor oil to 5-20w and use a KIA brand oil filter. More likely to be senor/wiring issue than the chain if motor runs alright. How many miles are on it? How often do you change the motor oil and filter? Have you been using 5-20W oil? Have you been using KIA oil filters?
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Thanks for your help! I just brought the car used 2 week ago, so I don't know the history of the oil change however the oil was real real dark so I did change it and I used 5-20w Mobile Oil and a Fram oil filter. The oil is not pure clean now but much much lighter now. The Solenoid broke while trying to get it out (The one closest to the fire wall) so I replaced it with a Dorman. I didn't take out the Intake (closest to the fan) yet but should I as well? I did check resistance and it was ok 7.6 Ohms. I did read if you disconnect the wire, the timing should chgange but if not change, then its that OCV. Please let me know.
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Definitely remove the intake solenoid, check the condition, and do a function test by applying power directly to it. With an unknown oil maintenance history, I also recommend doing 2-3 very short interval oil changes, trying to clean out any engine sludge which may be there as a result of poor maintenance by the previous owner(s).
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Ok will do. Also is there an issue with using a non KIA oil filter? I have a Fram oil filter installed now. And is the Mobile 5w-20 oil brand ok?
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Many different opinions on using a non O.E.M. filter. I owned a KIA 03 3.5 Sorento for 11 years and used KIA, Fram, Wix, Purolator, NAPA TECH 2000(Walmart) and never had a problem. Others will tell you ONLY USE O.E.M.
Mobil is fine and so are a myriad of other brand oil out there. Just use the viscosity specified and follow the oil change schedule and you will be fine.
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Many different opinions on using a non O.E.M. filter. I owned a KIA 03 3.5 Sorento for 11 years and used KIA, Fram, Wix, Purolator, NAPA TECH 2000(Walmart) and never had a problem. Others will tell you ONLY USE O.E.M.
Mobil is fine and so are a myriad of other brand oil out there. Just use the viscosity specified and follow the oil change schedule and you will be fine.
My opinion as well, with just one thing to add. Kia/Hyundai have published TSBs stating that some non-OEM oil filters do not perform according to their specs. However, this information has never been confirmed by another source (that I'm aware of), and the automakers have also not provided a list of specific filters which they consider to have issues. So you can take this or leave it, as you choose.
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Update- I had a friend with a scanner test the VVT Solenoids while in the car. The exhaust which is new, clicked and sound good. the Intake had a very soft click and sounded like its was very weak (I took it out and cleaned it up as well and tested outside the car and seemed intermittently it moved) so I ordered a new brand name unit and it should be coming late next week. What I don't understand is I'm just getting the P0014 code now (only code now)which points to the exhaust side (but I replaced the exhaust VVT) but when I test it using a Snap-On scanner and listening to the clicks, its seems in reverse order. Meaning I replaced the exhaust solenoid which I thought was the one near the firewall (P0014) and (P0011) is the intake near the front of the engine near the fan. So I don't get the P0011 anymore, now just the P0014 which states its the exhaust solenoid which I replaced but haven't replaced the intake yet until it comes next week. So it seems crossed to me but the wires are at a length the looks correct and the fit in the position. Any ideas?
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Update- I had a friend with a scanner test the VVT Solenoids while in the car. The exhaust which is new, clicked and sound good. the Intake had a very soft click and sounded like its was very weak (I took it out and cleaned it up as well and tested outside the car and seemed intermittently it moved) so I ordered a new brand name unit and it should be coming late next week. What I don't understand is I'm just getting the P0014 code now (only code now)which points to the exhaust side (but I replaced the exhaust VVT) but when I test it using a Snap-On scanner and listening to the clicks, its seems in reverse order. Meaning I replaced the exhaust solenoid which I thought was the one near the firewall (P0014) and (P0011) is the intake near the front of the engine near the fan. So I don't get the P0011 anymore, now just the P0014 which states its the exhaust solenoid which I replaced but haven't replaced the intake yet until it comes next week. So it seems crossed to me but the wires are at a length the looks correct and the fit in the position. Any ideas?
I'm not familiar with your model, but most engines in this layout have the exhaust manifold in front just behind the radiator and cooling fan, and the intake closest to the firewall.

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