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Drive train noise while turning

Thanks for reply and help , so now this Kia while driving, let’s just say pulling to driveway and turning my wheel to the right ok , while driving the driver side wheel while turning to the right , driving like really slow ,if the road is bumpy or whatever it is the front wheel driver side makes clicking noise it’s not the noise like cv axle will make I went and drove circle on big parking lot slow or fast won’t do that clicking noise unless it’s a hole on the road , to mention I drove on bumpy roads and It didn’t do this at all no noise nothing , this is only if I drive car while turning to the right and only if the wheel hits the small curb or bumpy roads while turning ,and only does the driver side , so far I took the wheel off and inspect with crowbar and I didn’t or couldn’t find anything wrong , the cv axle seems to be little bit or really tiny bit lose , but other Than that nothing wrong , does anyone has any idea what can be wrong ,I did make a video of that axle what shape it is


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Somewhere in this forum, I posted about a front end noise that I had and what fixed it. Mine was the front sway bar links. I could not get any loose movement from the joints with a pry bar but when I removed the links, one end of one of the links moved around freely while the other end joints where stiff to move. I replaced them with Moog links from RockAuto Parts. The Moog have a lifetime warranty and were exactly the same as the OEM part that was on the KIA, right down to the same numbers stamped in them and the same little paint marks on them. This was with 17,000 miles on the KIA and I did not what to go to the dealer so I fixed it myself. Mine was more of the clicking sound on turning over mild wash board in some roads.

Other here get a creaking sound from the front end on turns like you described and a believe one or two people said that the steering rack was replaced and the noise went away. Anyways, if you find a part that is loose by prying, it is bad and if is not loose by prying, it still may be bad.
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Thank u for the info and help, I took both off and the are on good shape , pretty stiff I can say both ends , like they weren’t lose at all ,so maybe when they are on car they’re not good ? Idk what else to check,the only thing that makes me wonder is that cv axle on drivers side it’s not tight as on passengers side or maybe that’s how it should be , I have a video trying to move cv axle with crowbar but It doesn’t give me options to upload it here , other than that I didn’t see anything wrong, what’s funny is that if I would hit the wheel with my foot hard I can hear that noise , passenger side won’t do that , last to mention is that it does makes that click or I can say metal touching meat , only when I’m driving slow turning wheels to the right ,
I know one thing it is driving me nuts right now that I can’t figure out

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It's a hard call to make but may be the lower ball joint or tie rod end. By kicking the tire, you are impacting both joints. You could try to lift the rubber boots on the joints and stick a spray wand in the joint and spray some chain & cable lube into the joint. Chain & cable lube normally come out of the spray can very thin and runny. As the lube sets, it thickens up so it should run into the joint at first. Jack the car up and take the tire off to let the lower ball joint hang so the lube can run down into it. Do one joint at a time and if the noise goes away after lubing just that one joint then you know which joint was causing the noise. This is not going to fix the joint but may help locate the noise. At least it would not cost much to do and is not going to harm anything.

Another outside possibility is from KIA TSB CHA042. Here is a link to that TSB: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...60112-2280.pdf
I would not thing that kicking the wheel would cause noise from the upper strut mount but I have seen weirder things happened so one just never knows.
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I know man , it’s really hard and weird strange whatever u can call it , but I’m telling u that it’s like idk how even yo describe this , it’s been over 10 days and I can’t figure out , I’m at work now , after 4:30 pm to today I’ll check and try to do that and let u know , thank you very much again for help,
Also read that link and my problem it’s pretty much almost same as they described, so I’m going to check step by step , hopefully figure out

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How are your tires and alignment? I had a couple alignments done back in the winter. My biggest mistake was letting Mavis do it. They had a 90 day warranty so I went back for another. It seems they stiffed me. Had the noise at first then tires got chopped up later on. Turns out the camber was really bad. So a $10-15.00 camber kit was needed to be installed. Luckily, my trusted shop found the issue and hooked me up with a tire shop for a good deal on tires, alignment and installed the camber kit. Might be worth a look. Here's what Mavis did. They jammed that bolt in and was a real PITA for them to get it out.
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My tires are like less than year and half year old, they’ve been rotated as per owners manual , balanced them January , and the is no vibration whatsoever at all , there is no lose power steering To left or to right , it doesn’t pull to the left or right at all , idk what else to do ,
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A CV joint will make a clicking sound when turning when the joint starts to go bad. The balls in the CV joint slots will catch on wear marks in the ball grooves as the balls slide in and out of the grooves when the wheel rotates. This make a clicking sound when the wheel is turned, but when going straight, the noise goes away because the balls are in the wear marks and not sliding in the grooves.

Some other things people here have reported is loose axle nuts. The center axle nut does not clamp the hub when tightened. KIA has a kit with thicker washers if I understood what was being said. This noise occurred when taking off from a stand still. Another person reported noises from the front end and later found that the splines on the axle shaft had striped off from what I would guess was a poorly harden shaft.

Grinding metal to metal noise may be a really bad wheel bearing. As you turn in one direction, you will apply more load on one wheel and lessen the load on the other wheel. If the noise only happen while turning right, it could be a bad drivers side wheel bearing because you are applying more load on that wheel. Try moving the wheel in and out, top to bottom to check for play. Most people would hear the bad bearing before any play would show up but when you said you hear metal to metal.....

It gets really hard trying to describe noise and sounds. It is like the saying "A picture is worth a thousand words.", except this is with sound.
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Jolt2 u are absolutely right , it’s hard to describe , I drove last night again and it does makes a clicking noise when I turn to right and driver side hits small hole or road cut or small curb on slope speed as far as i can tell by now ,last night I took the tire off and I checked again the driver side cv axle or joint and what I can see tell and fell is that cv axle it moves up and down a little bit so compared to some YouTube videos it shouldn’t move like that , also it moves like in and out a little bit like when I try to pull in or out like towards transmission, it makes me fell that is that but it’s hard to say 100% , I did make another video of that cv axle how it moves I wish I can upload it here so u can see ur self and tell me what u think , I checked online for price and Oem kia one is 430$ and one from autozone is like Duralsat around 100$ , it’s to expensive to send it to shop , I probably for couple hours I can do it myself , idk sometimes it makes me buy one and just change it and see or just wait till it gets little bit more worse or sound comes mor often then it’s easy to know where’s exactly problem ,
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I think jolt2 was referencing this https://www.kia-forums.com/2011-2013...ify-sound.html when he was talking about the axle nut/hub/thicker washers. Good details there.

When I read your post it didn't sound like what happened to me as mine was happening when going straight and usually from a stop. But now that jolt2 mentions it, it may be what you are hearing. From my understanding and recollection, the material that the hub washer was made out of may have changed. In any case, changing the hub washers got rid of the clicking sound in my case. It drove me crazy and many things were tried while still under warranty. It's a cheap thing that you can replace to rule it out. I believe each washer was $5 to $10. It sounds like you're very good at doing things yourself so I'm guessing you should be able to do this yourself as well. In that thread, there is a reference to a field TSB from Kia Germany with more details.
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