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Rear seat is stuck in folded down position in 2012 Sorento

About a year ago I folded both rear seat backs forward to fit my tools in there. The seat backs are made in two units...a wide one on the left and a narrow one on the left. I was able to release the left one and lock it into the upright position. However, the right side is stuck in the lowered position. When I lift the plastic release handle, I can hear movement down in the hinge area, and I can see a speck of movement in the latch mechanism when I shine a light in there, but it seems to be locked solid.

The fact that I can see a bit of movement and can hear that tells me that the sheathed cable is not broken but the latch itself must be stuck.

Is there a fix for this where I can release the latch and get the seat back to the upright position?

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I don't know if this will help or not but you could try by pushing down on the seat.
This sometimes relieves the pressure on the latching mechanism so it can release.
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Thanks. I did try that. It's easy to sit on the seat back and try to get it to move a little, but it is very solid. At first I thought it was completely frozen, but it does move up and down maybe a 16th or 32nd of an inch. Keep the idea coming, guys. I need to get this seat back up as soon as I can and I shudder to think what the dealership would charge me.

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Here is a link to the TSB that cdavis8211 is talking about: https://kia.oemdtc.com/255/second-ro...rento#more-255

I also have a sticky rear seat (I have been able to make it work when needed) but I kept forgetting about it when I had my KIA in for recalls and now it is not covered by warranty anymore.
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Thanks, jolt2. Looks like I'm screwed.

Do you have any tips for raising it, even if just one time (meaning I don't mind breaking it because I never have rear passengers).

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Success!

I went out to the car and decided to shake and wiggle the heck out the seat back and after a minute of aggressive shaking and twisting she popped loose.

Come springtime I'll remove the seat completely and do the necessary surgery and lubrication.

Thanks to all for your help.
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steambc, I posted more info with a link to KIA rear seat information at the service manual link deal: https://www.kia-forums.com/2011-2013...g-manuals.html

If you look at a break down of the seat, the release lever is NOT hooked up by a cable so you can pull on it pretty good, except for the plastic handle that could break. I just keep wiggling the back of the seat back and forth as I pull on the release handle. For me, it does release with some effort and I am then able to move the seat back up or down. Some times I worry about breaking the handle but if that happens I will just have to replace both pivots as mine is the 40% seat side that sticks. The 60% (wider) side releases and moves freely like it should. Attached is the actual KIA TSB about the seat problem. It has the replacement parts numbers and service time to replace.

You can find safety recalls, Technical Service Bulletins ( TSB ), picture breakdowns and more from the Alldata deal I posted for $12.95 for one year of use. If you have a lot of paper, time, and printer ink; you can print it all and save it. I did that once for a pickup I had and it took over 700 sheets of paper with double sided printing. I would just pay the money now but that up to you.
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Thanks jolt2. I did reply to that thread and mentioned I am going to order. I need to find out if I have the GDI or the MPI engine. I'm not sure how to find out but I will. Bought it used.

Thanks for going to all the trouble to help. I greatly appreciate it. Not sure if you saw my post above... I shook the heck out of it and got it to unlock and got the seat back to vertical. It looks like they've been having this problem since 2011... hard to believe they didn't redesign for 2012.

Much appreciated!

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I need to find out if I have the GDI or the MPI engine. I'm not sure how to find out but I will. Bought it used.
The VIN number will tell if it is a GDI or MPI engine. It is the 8th digit in the VIN number. The number can depend on the year of the KIA but for the 2012, the number "6" as the 8th digit in the VIN number is for the GDI engine. I think the number "1" is for the MPI engine but I am not 100% sure on the MPI number. The 2012 GDI has "GDI" on the top of the plastic engine cover when you open the hood. The Gasoline Direct Injected engine has the injectors in the cylinder head with a high pressure fuel pump that sets under the engine cover, and kind of sounds like a diesel when it is at idle. The Multi Port Injection engine does not have a high pressure fuel pump under the engine cover.
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If you open the hood and it says GDI on the plastic cover over the engine, you have a GDI
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