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I was considering changing my oil fairly quickly after purchase to put in Mobil 1 full synthetic and was going over info in my owners manual and where it is stating the fluids in the vehicle it had a trademark symbol there that said Total Quartz, I had no idea what that was but I googled it and it is a performance oil company. Company name is Total and Quartz is their performance synthetic oil line. So coming from the factory with synthetic is nice.
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It's generally thought best to leave the original oil up to the first service. If you can believe that the logo actually means something about the original oil, that will be some reassurance for you.

Let's hope that Total Quartz doesn't actually contain quartz. It's common for oils to have exotic additives that sound "strong" or "lubricative" (I'm thinking of titanium and molybdenum here), but quartz? Soon we'll see diamond (Oil lasts forever; get it?).

Particularly in the US, there's a tendency to change the first oil quite early; the thinking is to get rid of chunks of metal left from the manufactuiring process. Bit of a myth, I'd say, and the filter would get rid of any (unlikely) remnants. Our Cerato went for 13,000 km with the original oil, which stayed quite clean-looking and the engine has been fine since then.

No doubt Mobil 1 is a good oil, but I wonder if it would have the same appeal had it been called Mobil 2? It's a bit pricey in Australia.
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I went to total's website and I dont believe it actually contains quartz. Total looks like a new green/eco-friendly type of oil company..... if that makes any sense, kind of a oxymoron. I wasnt to worried about break-in metal, ect. as I have read that modern factory produced engines dont need the oil changed immediately, just as you would normally service it. I was going to put the synthetic oil mainly for the increased start up protection due to the fact that it clings much better to the internal parts after the motor is turned off. Most of a vehicles engine wear occurs at start up due to the lack of proper lubrication. My local walmart has the 5 quart bottles of Mobil 1 for 26 bucks. Only 9-10 bucks more than the 5 quart conventional motor oils. My local dealer charges 39.99 extra to put in syn. oil during a service and that is for 5 quarts, the 3.3 v6 takes 6 quarts so it would be even more than the 39.99. I will just give them my own bottles of syn oil to put in. The service manual says to service 7500 miles unless you use it under severe conditions. I was a little hesitant to wait that long with conv. oil but with syn. oil it is ok.
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Some brands of oil are advertised as sticking to the parts ready for start-up, and there may be something in this (e.g. Castrol Magnatec). I didn't think synthetic oils were particularly strong in this feature; longer life perhaps. I use Castrol 5W-30 Edge (Synthetic) in some cars. Cerato gets Caltex 10W-30 Premium Plus (Non-synth).

I'm a bit of a believer in sticking to the one type of oil for a particular car. I've mostly used Castrol products, quite often 10W-40 or 15W-40, and never had any problems. "Knowing what I now know", I would probably have used 10W-30 for my 10 year old Mazda 6, but figure it's a bit late to introduce a new grade of oil to a mature engine. I chose Caltex for the Cerato just for a change, also that was the oil recommended by a KIA dealer; readily available for about $35 aqnd seems to do the trick. Recommended change interval is 12 months/15000km or 6 months/7500km under harsh conditions.

We here in Oz pay a lot for cars and car products. Run-of-the-mill oils are about $30 per 5 litres, while Mobil 1 is $95. Single-litre bottles are inflated to nearly double the large-bottle price.


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yea, I had been looking at the Mobil 1 at Advance Auto Parts and it was running on sale around 36-37, I was happy to see it on sale in the walmart. I read all the labels to make sure it wasnt some knock-off of Mobil 1 for walmarts. It is the real thing and for 10.00 less than normal price of the syn oil and only about 10 more than dino oil. And 'Cuda dont think I am ready for a diamond oil......sounds a little rich. Ba dump duh
As far as Mobil 2 goes if it was an upgraded mobil syn oil, why not. Jusy look at WD-40. Water Displacement Formula # 40, took them 40 tries till they got it perfect.
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Found this link about the partnership between Total Oil Company and Kia Motors.

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This link actually shows more about the partnership between Kia and Total.

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This link actually shows more about the partnership between Kia and Total.

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Thanks; good to know.
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Cuda, this is good reading about oils in general, this particular section mentions the benefits of synthetic over dino oil at start up.

Motor Oil 104 - Bob is the Oil Guy
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Yes, I've read Bob is the Oil Guy (BITOG) a fair bit. Only problem is there's too much information.

This is a good general link: Motor Oil Viscosity Grades Explained in Layman's Terms

I already have a fair bit of oil in the shed (in fact my wife thinks I am BITOG); up to 2 years supply for my various cars and small engines. I'm thinking of rationalising to one type of oil and Total oil as mentioned might be the answer. Endorsement by KIA is encouraging. Costs about $10 per litre.
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