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#21 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 02:23 AM
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Lucky people, I contacted Kia Australia regarding fuel credits etc ,the answer was no, we do our testing to Australia standards, which I think is done in a lab. A second email saying that Kia advertised 7.5/100 fuel econ, and I cannot get better than 12.6/100 bought NO RESPONSE.
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all testing the world over are done in labs, you can't do it any other way, as you have to control all the conditions and it has to be repeated time and time again. It is only provided with comparison purposes only to compare with another vehicle that has been tested under the same identical conditions.

Don't know where you are driving to get those bad fuel economy numbers, but the worse I've ever had so far is 9.1L/100 km. My normal driving is usually around 8.3L/100 km. But what I get is my type of driving, doesn't mean that someone else will get the same.
You can get 10 people to drive the same vehicle over the same route and I bet you will come up with 10 different fuel economy figures.
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conwelpic, received an email from the RACQ [ Royal auto club of Qeensland], telling me they had just tested a Soul plus around the city, best L/100 obtained was 11.7
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conwelpic, received an email from the RACQ [ Royal auto club of Qeensland], telling me they had just tested a Soul plus around the city, best L/100 obtained was 11.7
heavy city traffic will do that on any car, I've never driven mine in heavy city traffic, where I live those conditions do not exist.
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Personally I think that some of these attacks on Kia are baseless. I just bought my 2010 Kia Soul Base and I love it.

Here's the thing though, before I bought my car I Googled "2010 Kia Soul 1.6 real world MPG." Results were in the range of 25-30 consistently with most getting around 28 in mixed driving.

So, I'm on my third tank now and I can confirm this as I get 28 MPG consistently. I was not misled at any point in time to believe that this vehicle achieved anywhere near 34 MPG like some of the other new cars on the market.

It boggles my mind what people will believe just because it's on a sticker in the store. And let's not get confused here, a showroom is a store.

Like anything, you have to do your research and most importantly, get feedback from other owners who have already taken the plunge. It's the least you can do for yourself.

I haven't had to go to a dealer yet for repair but I've had it for about a month. So far so good and I would purchase the Soul over again if given the choice. Actually I would have got the ! model.

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It boggles my mind what people will believe just because it's on a sticker in the store. And let's not get confused here, a showroom is a store.
Sadly, a vast many consumers now days have the motivation of a Sloth and the intelligence of a Hamster. So if it says a certain MPG on the sticker, that is what they are going to believe. In fact, some people probably won't even pay attention to what the sticker even says....let alone notice if it ends up being accurate or not.
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Sadly, a vast many consumers now days have the motivation of a Sloth and the intelligence of a Hamster. So if it says a certain MPG on the sticker, that is what they are going to believe. In fact, some people probably won't even pay attention to what the sticker even says....let alone notice if it ends up being accurate or not.
The Dealer's Canadian sales manager used 7.5L/100 as one of his MAIN reasons why I should buy the AUSTRALIAN Soul +, other reasons where all the extras that came with the Canadian/Nth American, but did not come with the Australian 2lte plus car, these issues where not mentioned untill I had payed for the car and tryed to find them[things like blue tooth where there but no voice activation] Kia's accessories page seems to have nothing listed for the Australian Soul.
Kia Australia are also pushing 7.5L/100 on their offical site, and the best I can get is 12+/100 thats about 60% less than quoted, I drive after morning peak and before afternoon peak traffic flows, and you wonder why I am PI***d off.
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The Dealer's Canadian sales manager used 7.5L/100 as one of his MAIN reasons why I should buy the AUSTRALIAN Soul +, other reasons where all the extras that came with the Canadian/Nth American, but did not come with the Australian 2lte plus car, these issues where not mentioned until I had payed for the car and tried to find them[things like blue tooth where there but no voice activation] Kia's accessories page seems to have nothing listed for the Australian Soul.
Kia Australia are also pushing 7.5L/100 on their official site, and the best I can get is 12+/100 that's about 60% less than quoted, I drive after morning peak and before afternoon peak traffic flows, and you wonder why I am PI***d off.
always a good idea to thoroughly check out your vehicle before purchase and know exactly what is equipped standard, but why wouldn't you know this when you test drove the vehicle?
The driving you are talking about, EPA average would be 10.2L/100 km. That 7.5L/100 km is a combined figure which they state in the brochure.
Yes, for some reason under accessories there is nothing listed, however, if you go to the "download brochure" tab you can download an accessory brochure.

The Canadian sales manager at an Australian dealership is selling features that are only on Canadian models - that doesn't make sense

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What a crock!

Right out of the blue and out of the woodwork we have these random [first time] posts claiming that they get the advertised mpg or that no other car gets the advertised rated mpg.

Kia employees! Can't you at least be a little more convincing?
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I recently purchased a 2013 Kia Soul Exclaim, and while I am only on my second tank of gas, my low mpgs are a little concerning. At the time of my first fueling, I was averaging 19 miles per gallon. I thought that maybe time spend idling in the shop for the pre-sale inspection or during the orientation had skewed the average. However, I am one tick into the new tank of gas, and according to my dash I am averaging between 18 and 19 mpgs.

So far, most of my driving has been stop-and-go city/suburban driving and mainly short trips, which I understand has a negative impact on fuel economy. I am also aware that I am adjusting to my new vehicle, as it drives much differently than my old ride. However, while I will improve the eveness of my driving, I would say that my driving isn't enough to explain away the lows mpgs.

So, does anyone have an insights? After reading these forums, I now know that they recently lowered the EPA rating of the Soul, but it seems like I am pretty far below even the revised estimates.

ETA: MPGs have been gradually increasing; here's hoping that they contine the upward trend as the engine breaks in.

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