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KIA Soul What Don't You Like!

I bought a new 2016 KIA Soul + about 7 or 8 months ago. Now every body likes to boast about their choice in a vehicle but not really admit their are some things that drive them crazy. How about you. These are some of my quirks on my 2016 KIA Soul.

1. The suspension is way too stiff. Takes bumps way to hard. When I first drove it at the dealer I never really encountered every day bumps on the smoother highway. However, after I bought it and have driven for months it is very stiff and you feel every bump. Not so much as the driver with hands on the wheel but just let someone else drive it and you will really notice the bumps, especially in the rear seats. Maybe related to short wheel base.

2. Cruise Control. I have the 2.0 L engine and it really is more than powerful enough for me. Never a problem and as far as economy mileage I am happy. I gotten as good as 31.5 mpg on a trip at 70 to 75 mph. About 28 to 29 at 80 mph. My average all around about 24.5. But the cruise control is maladjusted. It tries to get you to the speed as quickly as possible as to where it actually jerks you around. I don't notice much down shifting at all but every vehicle I have owned the cruise is nice and easy transition. The cruise on this is downright annoying.

3. The Back lift doesn't come up by itself and has no automatic release inside even to unlock. If you have grocery bags in your hands you must put them down to open the tailgate and then lift it up.

4. There are a couple other things I can't remember right now.

Overall the car is worth the money but I wouldn't get another KIA Soul just based on the rough ride even with minor road bumps. Straight on driving on good roads it is just fine. We have a 2007 KIA Sportage and it has a lot of advantages over the soul that I wish they would have carried over. But with the bluetooth and other advantages I prefer the soul as far as because it is newer and is nice and sporty and actually this 2.0L beats the crap out of my V6 2.7L KIA Sportage. That engine is a dog as far as power. But it rides real nice just like a Santa Fe for example, very soft ride. One wonderful feature of the KIA Sportage is the seats fold fully flat and even the passenger seat folds down fully flat and you can use it like a table. For example you stop at a fast food place and can put your food on it.

A feature I hope KIA gets if they don't already have it is the right side vehicle rear camera view. We have a 2015 Honda Civic in the family. If you push a button for example to exit on the right side of the vehicle such as a getting of on a ramp it literally shows the whole right side of the car behind you and on the side. Very nice.

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I own a 2016 Soul SX.

1. Have you checked the tire pressure? (found on the forums that many dealers deliver the vehicles to customer with maximum shipping pressure 40-44 psi) I have the 18" rims, which is a smaller side wall to the 17" on the +, no its not the smoothest buts its not bad and never found it a problem, and an improvement over my previous 2012 4u which also had the 18" rims due to G2 suspension changes and a hair longer wheelbase.

2. As generally the shifts are not that dramatic so its not that noticeable but I guess it all depends on what your used to or comparing it too.

3. I have the smart key so I can unlock the rear hatch without pressing a fob button so its a little easier, just walk up to the hatch and then push the release (I can usually do it even while holding a couple of grocery bags). If the back had more of an angle then it may pop up on its own like a sedan, but then again the door is so light and it is a very compact vehicle, so there is limitations.

If you set your outside rearview mirrors correctly you can see up both sides of your vehicle and no blind spots.

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The main thing I don't like on mine is the small UVO screen, but then this has been corrected with the 2017 models. I figured if it bothered me that much then I could always upgrade it aftermarket, but it hasn't and works great, in fact my 2012 had the 8-speaker Infinity sound system, my 2016 doesn't (6 speakers) but the sound quality is just as good if not better so don't miss the loss of that feature in my change.

No matter what you purchase there is always a compromise on things, you just have to find the best overall package that works for you.
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Yeah. Tire Pressure is fine. I have had many cars and two luxury vehicles. A Lincoln Continental and a Mercedes Benz. The Mercedes was a 2003 E320. The Mercedes was by far the most comfortable and nicest vehicle I ever had and was about $54 grand way back in 2003. But it suffered from transmission issues at very low mileage which I never would have expected. The Lincoln Continental had electrical wiring issues and as a matter of fact due to the many optional accessories they were noted for wiring harness fires. Mine also one of the harnesses caught fire. So, I pretty much learned my lesson that it isn't worth really putting the money into luxury vehicles as you pay big at start and pay big at any repair and I mean pay big even when you have the warranties. They make stuff up and you pay hundreds. That being said many economy cars today have all that the luxury cars had 10-15 years ago. Sometimes though they don't do little common sense things that really don't cost much. I have experimented with my mirrors yet still have noticed a number of times blind spots on my right side of my KIA. I never put the small round optical mirrors, they help a lot. As far as built I think KIA is fine. I only had my KIA Soul about several months and a woman came thru a red light and hit me on the right side. She had a year old big Chrysler. Anyway, the KIA held up very well indeed. Her car I believe was totaled. Not even one of my airbags went off. I was a little sore from the seat belt but the impact to me wasn't rough at all.
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I have a 2013 base model. 98K miles. Only bug I have had is the odometer display went out for 2 weeks then came back. The only things I really don't like about it is not having DRLs and the seats are uncomfortable to me. I put a 104 mile commute each day and the seats are probably the worst I have ever sat in.
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I wish it got better mileage. I wish I could have gotten a manual transmission and 4WD. I wish the navigation worked better (voice recognition). I don't mind the ride at all. My other vehicle is a live axle super duty, so the Soul rides like a pillow in comparison.
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. I have experimented with my mirrors yet still have noticed a number of times blind spots on my right side of my KIA. I never put the small round optical mirrors, they help a lot. As far as built I think KIA is fine.
I do not use any additional mirrors, just the regular ones that came with the car. They are set up so that all rear view mirrors are treated as one complete mirror, so as soon as you loose site of a vehicle in one mirror you can pick it up in another. For example I can drive along a 3-lane interstate type road and change lanes with-out looking over my shoulder as I know exactly what's in every lane on all sides of my vehicle. It takes a bit of getting used to but it works.

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Now that I have had it for the week, I feel like the mileage is sub-par compared to other cars in its class. Otherwise, I'm enjoying it!
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I owned a 2008 Rondo before my 2016 Soul. I feel like I was spoiled in comparison. The ride is definitely rougher. I don't enjoy singing while driving as much as I used to!

My pet peeve with both cars was the auto-lock feature which I finally got used to in the Rondo so I can live with it in the Soul. After about 10 seconds all the doors automatically lock.

What I loved about my Rondo and don't like with the Soul is I cannot unlock all the doors with the key by turning it twice to the right. Once does unlock the driver-side door. And that's it. I know I can press the button twice, too.

Plus, in my Rondo I knew all the doors were locked when I shut any door because all the lights would blink once to "reassure" me. I still find myself looking for that before turning away from my car.

The biggest safety issue I have found with the Soul is the way it unlocks all the doors when you put it in Park. That is potentially a very dangerous feature for many people. You pull up to an ATM and all your doors unlock. How nice. I've quickly got in the habit of immediately pressing the lock button every time I put my car in Park. I know there is another thread about this somewhere in the forum somewhere.

And what's with the annoying side-light in the cargo area? You can't turn it off! So there'll be no plein air painting from the back of my Soul - ever. I'd kill my battery in one afternoon. This car is not good for camping. You can't leave the hatch up because the light cannot be turned off. And it's annoying sometimes because it's on the side and the glare blinds me. I have to cover it to see anything in the back when it gets in those instances.

But if the car will work and take me all the miles I need to go, then I can live with these annoyances. My Rondo was not perfect either. It had a lot of it's own quirks. I miss her. Her name was Rhonda. Yes, Rhonda the Rondo. RIP
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I owned a 2008 Rondo before my 2016 Soul. I feel like I was spoiled in comparison. The ride is definitely rougher. I don't enjoy singing while driving as much as I used to!

My pet peeve with both cars was the auto-lock feature which I finally got used to in the Rondo so I can live with it in the Soul. After about 10 seconds all the doors automatically lock.

What I loved about my Rondo and don't like with the Soul is I cannot unlock all the doors with the key by turning it twice to the right. Once does unlock the driver-side door. And that's it. I know I can press the button twice, too.

Plus, in my Rondo I knew all the doors were locked when I shut any door because all the lights would blink once to "reassure" me. I still find myself looking for that before turning away from my car.

The biggest safety issue I have found with the Soul is the way it unlocks all the doors when you put it in Park. That is potentially a very dangerous feature for many people. You pull up to an ATM and all your doors unlock. How nice. I've quickly got in the habit of immediately pressing the lock button every time I put my car in Park. I know there is another thread about this somewhere in the forum somewhere.

And what's with the annoying side-light in the cargo area? You can't turn it off! So there'll be no plein air painting from the back of my Soul - ever. I'd kill my battery in one afternoon. This car is not good for camping. You can't leave the hatch up because the light cannot be turned off. And it's annoying sometimes because it's on the side and the glare blinds me. I have to cover it to see anything in the back when it gets in those instances.

But if the car will work and take me all the miles I need to go, then I can live with these annoyances. My Rondo was not perfect either. It had a lot of it's own quirks. I miss her. Her name was Rhonda. Yes, Rhonda the Rondo. RIP
I used to own a '08 Rondo too (also owned a 2012 Soul too). I had forgot about the cargo light on the Soul, your right it should have had a shut off switch on it. On my 2016 I also have a cargo light on the opposite side but that is a removable flashlight too - very handy. They should have put the cargo light overhead with a switch.

If your at an ATM, just put it into neutral instead of park, it won't auto unlock the doors. On models with the Supervision instrument cluster (which I have) you can control that feature if you wish.

The Rondo is a much larger vehicle than the Soul, so the ride will obviously be better. The 2017 Rondo has a 7" longer wheelbase than the Soul.

The doors lock after 30 seconds if you unlock it with the FOB and don't get to it in time.

No vehicle is perfect, but you mostly adjust to the variations.
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I should say up front I'm an unabashed Kia Soul fanboy. I've researched and test driven just about all the competition on the market, and I personally think the Soul trashes them all. Car & Driver agrees, having named it to the ten best SUV/Trucks list. So do 150,000 buyers a year, making it the best selling subcompact for several years in a row.

So, being a huge fanboy (2010 Soul+ and a 2015 Soul+), I feel pretty comfortable pointing out what I think are the car's relatively few faults. To pick fault with a car, you first have to identify what the car was meant to do, then you measure it by that intention. It seems to me the Soul's mission is to be a highly affordable subcompact CUV (sans 4WD) that punches above it's weight. By that I mean it should make users feel they got more than they paid for. I think we all agree the Soul punches above its weight with luxury content, a soft-feel interior, sound deadening, etc. It just rocks. If you buy a Soul at a decent discount, nothing comes close to what you get for your money.

But...

1. I wish the Soul's cargo compartment was engineered as elegantly as the Honda Fit and HRV. Meaning I wish it had Honda magic seats. And I wish the cargo floor was lower. I don't mean to disparage the cargo area - it's awesome for a 163" long car. I'm just saying it could go beyond awesome.

2. I wish you could get a gray interior in the Exclaim version. I find the black interior claustrophobic. I want the 2017 turbo, but I won't buy one cause it only comes in black inside. It was a long, hard slog to find a 2015 Soul+ with a gray cloth interior.

3. I soooo wish the Soulster, Trackster, and other concepts had been made real. I get that the Soul is never going to be a hot hatch, but those were cool and should have been built.

4. I want a higher quality backup camera. What a hunk of junk in the dark. I want the Nissan and Honda view that shows you the whole care and surrounds from above. Make it an option I can pay for.

5. I want free navigation updates for ten years. Dudes, I paid serious money for that nav package. Give me the frigging updates free (sometimes you can sweet talk the service manager to get a free update).

6. I want the turbo engine in the Plus.

7. And here is the most important thing I have to say to Kia. Not about the current Soul, but the next one. DON'T SCREW IT UP BY MAKING IT BIGGER OUTSIDE!!! We love the Soul because it is is a 163" long car that stores more than cars a foot or more longer. We love the small factor. Absolutely, positively, do not give in to the temptation to make it bigger with the next generation. Make it bigger inside, not outside.
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